Talk:Radical Party of Chile (2018)

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Requested move 19 March 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. If another request is made in the future, evidence of common usage in English-language sources will be important to establishing a consensus. Dekimasuよ! 19:16, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

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Social Democrat Radical Party → Radical Party of Chile – The party known in English as the "Social Democrat Radical Party" changed its changed to the "Radical Party of Chile" in 2015. Autospark (talk) 14:54, 19 March 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. —usernamekiran(talk) 17:49, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). –Ammarpad (talk) 16:08, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure. It has been replaced by the Radical Party. --201.241.87.35 (talk) 01:26, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Oppose. The name of the party it's still Partido Radical Socialdemócrata (Social Democrat Radical Party), as it appears in the official registry at the Electoral Service of Chile (Servicio Electoral de Chile, SERVEL). --Sfs90 (talk) 18:11, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

That is an outdated document, apparently from 2010 or something. Still, it should be pointed out that the Social Democrat Radical Party existed until 2017 (?) (Guiller's campaign propaganda stated "Radical Party" only) and then became again the Radical Party --201.241.87.35 (talk) 23:33, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Even if the document could be from some years, it's the only official recognition from the electoral authorities, which are the safekeepers of the political parties' registry. There's no evidence that the party requested a change in their official registry to state a possible new name, or logo, or whatelse. --Sfs90 (talk) 05:11, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Uh-oh-ah --201.241.87.35 (talk) 05:25, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

So? All kind of official registries still say "Partido Radical Socialdemócrata". If I change my name to include the two surnames linked with a hyphen, without changing my registry to the authorities, I'm still legally and officially known with the two surnames separated ;) If I change my name from Peter to Richard, I'm still Peter until authorities verify and register the change, even when my new social name could be stated in some articles, but still it doesn't meet the verifiability issue. --Sfs90 (talk) 05:34, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

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Merger proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Consensus not to merge as proposed (sufficiently different parties); no consensus for alternative proposals with stale discussion. Klbrain (talk) 11:28, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

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I propose merging Radical Party of Chile (2018) into Radical Party of Chile. The new party is basically a continuation of the historical one.Karma1998 (talk) 16:54, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

I agree. But I think it would be better to return this article to its original name (Radical Social Democrat Party, I think) and make it clear it disappeared in 2018. --Bedivere (talk) 18:23, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't think I can support merging the articles – surely they are are completely separate parties, organisationally unrelated? The usual convention on en.wiki is to create new, separate articles for political parties that reuse the names of predecessors (whether official or unofficial predecessors). The article reads as if this party is actually the Social Democrat Radical Party, but renamed to adopt the name of one of the parties which merged to form it in 1994.--Autospark (talk) 15:44, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

That is correct. Bedivere (talk) 16:42, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I think we have three options 1.) merge this article with Radical Party of Chile, and mention that this party was known as the PRSD between 1994–2018 (if that was the case) 2.) continue keep the article separate from Radical Party of Chile, split the article into Social Democrat Radical Party and Radical Party of Chile (2018) for different stages of the PRSD and refounded PR 3.) keep the two articles separate as now, but rename this one to Radical Party of Chile (1994), as the PRSD was technically founded in 1994. Thoughts?—Autospark (talk) 20:14, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm more supportive of the last option, but I'd rather have this renamed to SOcial Democrat Radical Party, since that's the official name this party had between 1994 and 2018. Bedivere (talk) 20:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

So, let's merge it into the main article Radical Party of Chile? Bedivere (talk) 03:59, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Oppose merge, on the grounds that there isn't historical continuity between Radical Party of Chile and Radical Party of Chile (2018), because of the parties merge (rather than just a coalition) in 1994. There does seems to be continuity between Social Democrat Radical Party and Radical Party of Chile (2018), it makes sense to keep them discussed together. While I see the arguments for a name change to Social Democrat Radical Party, my view is that readers are better served by having the current name of the party as the title: that is, we should stick with the current structure. Klbrain (talk) 11:43, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

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Fist and rose

If someone has reliable sources on the party’s original use of the fist and rose emblem, do contribute to Fist and rose#Chile. Keriluamox (talk) 11:01, 23 November 2022 (UTC)