Talk:Snuffy's Parents Get a Divorce/GA3

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 01:10, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Nominator: Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk)

Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. --Seabuckthorn  01:10, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Reply


1: Well-written

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      • Major Point 1: Background "Sesame Street has had a history of ... and that was the case for "Snuffy's Parents Get a Divorce"." (summarised well in the lead)
      • Major Point 2: Development "The show's producers had expressed a desire to ... reviewed by the Children's Television Workshop's (CTW) advisory board, content experts, and developmental psychologists." (summarised well in the lead)
      • Major Point 3: Test results "After tests showed that their young viewers were ... despite the costs." (summarised well in the lead)
      • Major Point 4: Legacy "Sesame Street did not address ... which featured the Muppet Abby Cadabby." (not a concise summary of the Legacy section)
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      • Major Point 1: Background "Sesame Street has had a history of ... and that was the case for "Snuffy's Parents Get a Divorce"." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 2: Development "The show's producers had expressed a desire to ... reviewed by the Children's Television Workshop's (CTW) advisory board, content experts, and developmental psychologists." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 3: Test results "After tests showed that their young viewers were ... despite the costs." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 4: Legacy "Sesame Street did not address ... which featured the Muppet Abby Cadabby." (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
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        • ""Snuffy's Parents Get a Divorce" is an episode of the children's television program Sesame Street." good (Definition is established (WP:BETTER))
        • "Produced in 1992, it never aired because tests showed several unintended negative effects." good (Notability is established (WP:BETTER))
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2: Verifiable with no original research

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    • "listening to the voices of children and by putting their needs first",[1]
    • "extensive research and planning".[4]
    • "poignant",[8]
    • "Davis called it "a landmark broadcast"[9]
    • "a truly memorable episode, one of the show's best".[10]
    • "My two projects for this year are drugs and divorce. Divorce is a difficult one. Perhaps we could do it with puppets. I am also writing a script on drugs and peer pressure".[15]
    • "divorce is a middle-class thing," ... [16]
    • "We were really nervous about the show, and we didn't think it was a shoo-in. When you're dealing with something like death, the approach can be universal. But with divorce, it's so personal. People react differently."[17] (Random check on source 17, inaccessible, check on Google, query source "'D' Won't Do for Divorce.", 0 results, query quote "But with divorce, it's so personal. People react differently", 10 results, this quote is used in another RS (The Baltimore Sun, title: After preview, 'Sesame Street' cancels a show on divorce) in the context of 'Sesame Street', so check is roughly successful )
    • "We hope to get to it by the end of the season. It always takes us a while to figure out how to do an issue appropriately, from a child's point of view".[20]
    • "Now we delve into things like divorce that are likely to affect small children very heavily. We didn't touch those things before".[22]
    • "about how Snuffy will have good homes, and so on and so on".[19]
    • "it bombed".[19]
    • "The kids came away with negative messages ... The kids misunderstood arguments. They said arguments did mean divorce. Some thought Snuffy's parents were moving away even though we said just the opposite. A number said the parents would no longer be in love with them".[17]
    • "They wrote a whole show and taped it, and it was just devastating for test groups of kids. So they just threw the whole thing in the garbage and never tried it again. It was just too difficult a concept for a 3-year-old".[23]
    • "back to the drawing board" ... [25]
    • "We ate the cost and never aired it. We feel there are a range of issues that we can deal with in the family that do not go to the extreme of divorce".[25]
    • "listening to the voices of children and by putting their needs first",[1]
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3: Broad in its coverage

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4: Neutral

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5: Stable: No edit wars, etc:   Yes

6: Images   Done (NFC with valid FUR)

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6: Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:     Done

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    • Lead Image (Snuffy31.jpg): This image is a screenshot of a copyrighted television program or station ID. As such, the copyright for it is most likely owned by the company or corporation that produced it. It is believed that the use of a limited number of web-resolution screenshots (1) for identification and critical commentary on the station ID or program and its contents, and (2) on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Other use of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, might be copyright infringement.
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    • Source (WP:NFCC#4): Screenshot from the TV show
    • Use in article (WP:NFCC#7): Aloysius Snuffleupagus
    • Purpose of use in article (WP:NFCC#8): To illustrate the character.
    • Replaceable?: Since he is a copyrighted character, there are no free alternatives available.

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    • Caption - The Muppet Mr. Snuffleupagus ("Snuffy"). succinct and informative


As per the above checklist, the issues identified are:

  • The major point Legacy in the lead is not a concise summary of the Legacy section in the body.
  • The lead does not give relative emphasis to the major point Legacy as is given in the body.
  • Can you please check once more that the inline citations are correctly placed against the content they cite, because the sources are inaccessible to me?

This article is a very promising GA nominee. I'm delighted to see your work here. I'm putting the article on hold. All the best! --Seabuckthorn  22:33, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

All the concerns above have been addressed, including checking that all the sources are accurate. Thanks. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 23:45, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

OK, everything looks good now. Passing the article to GA status. --Seabuckthorn  01:16, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply