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"Any commentary, however, on the morals of a man who would impregnate and then imprison an employee is conveniently absent from the legend." Yes, I know... neutral POV... so I put it here instead. ::eyeroll:: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.54.250.11 (talk) 21:37, 13 June 2012 (UTC)Reply
You make a reasonable point that the way this notable legend is usually told may not be entirely evenhanded in its characterization of "Effie"'s morals. However, that's how the sources all seem to read, and as far as I know there's no information about a real-life model for "Effie", so we should stick with recapitulating the way the reliable sources tell the story.--Arxiloxos (talk) 23:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC)Reply
This morning's Oklahoman has another article about the ghost legend, which makes the point that Skirvin was "a notorious womanizer and drinker"; also notes that there's no real-life story that corresponds very closely to the hotel ghost legend--Skirvin did have an employee (his bookkeeper, Mabel Luty) who may also have been his mistress, but she outlived him.[1] I'll add a bit of this to the article. --Arxiloxos (talk) 17:07, 14 June 2012 (UTC)Reply
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