Talk:Simona Halep/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 17:23, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria - ✓ Pass Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• It contains copyright infringements - ✓ Pass Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). - ✓ Pass Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page.- ✓ Pass Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:26, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Links

• There are two links in the infobox, per WP:INFOBOXCITE could these be in prose? The one about the age is particularly bad as there are already cites about the age in prose. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Moved the "turned pro" one to the prose. The one for the age is really just for the whole infobox. There's no obvious place to put it. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Refs look good Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Seems like a lot of External links, the iMDB profile seems like a lot. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Removed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Prose

Lede

• . In total, she has been No. 1 for 64 weeks - could we link the whole of "No. 1 for 64 weeks"? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:38, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Ref in lede should be moved to prose. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:38, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Otherwise, lede is very good. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:38, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks! Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Main prose

• Should probably mention Constanța is in Romania. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Halep is a former world No. 1 junior. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Added. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• The Junior section comments on "grade", should probably be explained. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Added note. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• First mention of "Grand Slam" should be linked. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Linked first mentions in junior section and pro section. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• career playing low-level $10K ITF Women's Circuit events in Romania in 2006 and 2007. - was the $10k part of the event title? Prize money seems like a weird thing for prose in this way. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Sort of. The $10K is the event tier. The WTA does use 125K as an official tier name for their $125,000 tournaments. The tiers with lower prize money don't have an official name, but they are still typically referred to by the prize money. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• she defeated No. 96 - presumably world number 96? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Added an "abbr" to the first instance (this instance) Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• There's a lot of this in the article, I'm not sure no. # is a suitible alternative for what we are discussing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • For tennis, it is standard practice to write "world number (ranking)" as "world No. (ranking)" or just "No. (ranking)", both on Wikipedia and in the press. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• 2013: Breakthrough, six WTA titles, world No. 11 - even if we kept this, we are in sentence case No should be lower case. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • In this format, "No." is always capitalized. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Could we get some alt text for the images. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Added. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• "With these two runner-ups, Halep moved up to No. 3" - MOS:NUM says we should use the word "three" instead of 3, etc. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • With this format, the number is never written out. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• , they only won one tie.[140][141][142][143] - beware of WP:REFBOMB, maybe remove a ref or two. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • I moved three of these to the middle of the sentence so the usage is more clear. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
• Halep has described herself as an aggressive baseliner. - perhaps explain what a baseliner is. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Added a link to the appropriate page. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

The rest of the article looks very good, and well made/sourced. I will have to find out what the deal is with articles under pending changes reviews, as I've never come across one before. Placing on hold. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:19, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, Lee Vilenski! I addressed everything above. The "world No. X" is a standard tennis format for writing out "world number xxxx". The pending changes thing is just a type of page protection (from many years ago; we probably don't need it any more). Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:56, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

I'd just suggest either a note or a bracket commenting what No. # means. It should also be "no" in lowercase. Other than that, we're good to go. I have requested the removal of pending changes as it doesn't suit the article. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:20, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

I added a note in this format: "No." where it says "No. 96 Angelique Kerber". I could add a few more of these, but I don't want to do it everywhere. The capitalization is correct (see for instance this article or virtually any other tennis article). Thanks for removing the protection. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 06:59, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

No worries. In that case, all seems fine for passing. Good job. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:31, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Notes & References

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

• Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definately not manditory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.