Talk:Shangri-La Frontier

Shangri-La Frontier is not an isekai work

In the description on Shōsetsuka ni Narō, it is not listed as isekai. If a work is an isekai, like Reincarnated as a Sword, in the description, it will be clearly listed as isekai (異世界). I don't think a promotion campaign in foreign country is more accurate than the website where the novel is published. Moreover, Shōsetsuka ni Narō is the reason why isekai becomes popular. I think for the definition of isekai, nowhere knows better than Shōsetsuka ni Narō does. I suggest remove all isekai descriptions in the article. Hijk910 (talk) 07:55, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

@Link20XX and Humanbegin: Seems you two were the editors who added it in the article: [1], [2]. Please discuss. Thanks. -Hijk910 (talk) 08:03, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Whether one website considers something to be isekai or not is irrelevant; the source being used (while primary) is reliable and does call it an isekai. This is just like Sword Art Online; many people (allegedly even the creator) don't consider it to be an isekai, yet reliable sources do, so it is identified as such. Link20XX (talk) 15:22, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

The presentation now is like "it is isekai" instead of "it is considered by some as isekai", while it is not considered as isekai in Shōsetsuka ni Narō. In the Sword Art Online article, it is presented in a way that aligns with WP:WEIGHT. In my opinion, Shōsetsuka ni Narō should have much bigger weight on the topic of isekai. I still suggest remove all isekai descriptions in the article, unless you can find more sources citing Shangri-La Frontier as isekai. -Hijk910 (talk) 15:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

And let me leave a reliable secondary source stating that Shangri-La Frontier is different from isekai stories here for your reference. -Hijk910 (talk) 15:55, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the sources; that source is really good and does support the claim that the series is not an isekai. So, unless better sources for the former claim can be found, I have no problems removing the isekai categorization. Honestly, sources like that make me wonder if the VRMMO genre should have an article. Link20XX (talk) 16:10, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I will remove relevant content immediately. -Hijk910 (talk) 16:17, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Work is older than its supposed inspirations

The article is currently claiming that a notable player of the 2022 video game Elden Ring was an inspiration for the design of the protagonist, despite that design having already been established when the novels released in 2017. 2A02:AA15:927C:780:904E:F4FF:FE84:7FB4 (talk) 22:25, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

I rephrased the sentence. Thanks for the correction. Xexerss (talk) 22:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)