Talk:Secret Service Counter Assault Team

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Latest comment: 7 years ago by LavaBaron in topic M134 minigun claim

M134 minigun claim

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I'm removing the sentence claiming the CAT uses the M134 minigun. The two articles linked as sources use the same recut advertisement video as their source, although the original video doesn't have that claim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atHYe9qiz6w

Additionally, a press release by the company, dated after those two articles claims the systems have only been sold in the middle east: https://www.prlog.org/11290303-saracen-international-unleashes-the-raptor-premiere-security-vehicle-protecting-political-figures.html

Finally, I can't find photos or video of the presidential motorcade that show the obvious port on the roof for the minigun to come out of as seen in the advertisement. For example, this video shows the top of each vehicle as it passes, but no roof hatches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbIZoX-Uezw
SselemanLuos (talk) 07:37, 20 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

First - There are three sources, one of which is an unambiguously RS book that makes no reference to the YouTube video. The other two are articles which embed the video though don't make a claim of exclusive sourcing to it (and, yes, the video itself is not RS and is basically gun porn that doesn't belong in an encyclopedia). Second - press releases are not RS. Third - your original analysis of photographs is WP:OR. Fourth - the statement is qualified with "according to some reports" and does not claim that said reports are unquestionably valid (the claim, itself, seems personally suspect to me which is why I included the "according to some reports" qualifier originally; on the other hand, omitting it completely when we have multiple RS and when we know civilian law enforcement in the U.S. posses the M134 [e.g. the Federal Protective Forces], would fail our obligation to breadth of coverage). LavaBaron (talk) 08:16, 21 December 2016 (UTC)Reply