Talk:Scouting Cross

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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

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I'm confused here...

"The letters ONC on the wings of the emblem stand for "Ojczyzna, Nauka, Cnota" (Polish for "Homeland, Education, Virtue"). The middle wing with the letter N also symbolizes the compass that should guide every Scout through his or her life. The fleur-de-lys on the Scouts Cross does not bear the letters ONC, which have been replaced by two stars, emblematic of a Scout's wide-open eyes."

• Why is this discussing the ONC letters that are not on the emblem?
• Looking at the emblem, it has CZU and WAJ— what do these mean?
• There are no stars on the emblem.

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 16:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

This part about ONC should disappear form the article -- it relates to a fleur-de-lis used in Polish Scouting as a separate symbol. Polish wiki article pl:Lilijka (scouts' fleur-de-lis) says:

W 1927 na ramionach lilijki używanej przez Związek Harcerstwa Polskiego umieszczono litery ONC (...). Były eksponowane na lilijce do 1965, kiedy decyzjami nowego regulaminu zmieniono jej kształt i usunięto litery.

In 1927 letters ONC (...) were placed on arms of a fleur-de-lis used in Polish Scouting. They were exposed there until 1965, when new regulations changed the fleur-de-lis' shape and removed letters.

In 1981 'ONC' came back to the symbol (see pl:Odnowa harcerstwa).

However the miniature fleur-de-lis in the scouting cross central part has no ONC marking.

And "CZUWAJ" is explained in the article. --CiaPan (talk) 11:41, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah- it was not obvious that CZU and WAJ are Czuwaj. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)