Talk:Sarita Khurana
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Contested deletion
editThis page should not be speedily deleted because this is a notable person. A number of sources have been included since someone posted this article before. This one is grounded in credible articles, and major press. This filmmaker has also won substantial awards. She was in the Tribeca Film Festival, Pine Magazine, the Washington Post, and referenced in books. This person has also had substantial exposure in major Festivals and universities including MIT, and Columbia. Notable female artists and filmmakers of color deserve a wikipedia presence. If there are specific edits or tags for certain sources they can be edited, but deletion seems a little extreme.--JVadera (talk) 03:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- Most of the sources you cited are not reliable and/or are primary, and the rest of the sources do not discuss the subject of this article, that was the reason why it was deleted last time. GSS 💬 03:47, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for responding. I don't know who posted the article before, but all of the sources in this one discuss the subject of the article. While, some of the sources are indeed profiles mixed with interview elements I don't think that should fully disqualify everything within them. Important and notable women of color often have less standalone secondary profiles in major publications in spite of being major players, notable in their field, and influential. I also believe systemic inequity is reinforced when we only focus on a "meritocratic" neutral. We all know how algorithmic bias works. It's why we have edit-a-thons. This filmmaker seems to be quite notable. --JVadera (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:05, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- She has done nothing notable and if you read comments at the previous AfD you'll get my point. GSS 💬 04:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
I respectfully disagree that she has done nothing notable. The Tribeca Film Festival, Sheffield, the Mumbai Film Festival are notable festivals with a high bar for entry. To be covered by major publications in India and the US hardly seems like "nothing notable." --JVadera (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:20, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Contested deletion
editThis page should not be speedily deleted because I believe this person, Sarita Khurana is notable. I vote to keep it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrg12345 (talk • contribs) 17:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Contested deletion
editThis page should not be speedily deleted because... This article is substantially different from a previous version. This director is clearly notable. --UzmaZRizvi (talk) 18:59, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
thanks for keeping this page
editI'd like to echo the sentiments of an earlier comment- the removal of this article seems in line with a clear suppression of brown women creatives, of which there are few and far between on wikipedia. The rationale for deleting the entry seems couched in a clear bias. By what metrics are the flaggers gauging the 'success' of director? There is room for more than one South Asian American woman contributing significantly to the field of film, and tokenized global blockbuster recognition should not be the metric for success. In my opinion the director has clearly demonstrated significant achievement, and the suppression or deletion of this article contributes to the invisiblization of women of color in media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwahi (talk • contribs) 21:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Contested deletion
editThis page should not be speedily deleted because... (this director is a verifiable contributor the south asian american cultural community. Please see cited articles and sources) --Jwahi (talk) 03:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
CSD nomination
editI have removed the speedy deletion tag in good faith and as an uninvolved editor per policy WP:CSD. The tag has been reinstated in violation of that policy and should be declined. I will not revert the re-addition of the tag because I don't want to engage in edit-warring, but request that the admin processing the CSD request decline it because deletion is not uncontroversial and other deletion process should be used, per policy and as I have suggested. Vexations (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Contested deletion
editThis page should not be speedily deleted because... multiple users have contributed new material since the prior page was originally deleted. This page is about a notable filmmaker with solid evidence of notability and facts. This should be included in Wiki and looks stable now to me. --Heathart (talk) 17:42, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Evidence of edit warring
editGSS requested CSD https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=957695256&diff=prev&diffmode=source
CSD was contested https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarita_Khurana&diff=next&oldid=957852946&diffmode=source
GSS restored CSD https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarita_Khurana&diff=next&oldid=957857981&diffmode=source
CSD was contested by different editor https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarita_Khurana&diff=next&oldid=957907917&diffmode=source
GSS restored CSD https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarita_Khurana&diff=next&oldid=957916074&diffmode=source
GSS added G11 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarita_Khurana&diff=next&oldid=957998850&diffmode=source
CSD was contested by a 3rd editor (me) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarita_Khurana&diff=next&oldid=958005627&diffmode=source
GSD restored CSD a 4th time https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarita_Khurana&diff=next&oldid=958011344&diffmode=source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vexations (talk • contribs) 17:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Vexations: and you forget to mention that they were all SPAs with no knowledge of the policies except you so, reverting their edits is not a form of edit-warning and you as a non-admin can't decline G4. GSS 💬 17:59, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Let me fix your comment above:
- GSS requested CSD
- CSD was contested by UzmaZRizvi a colleague/student of the article creator with 25 edits since 2016
- GSS restored CSD
- CSD was contested by different editor - an SPA with 12 edits since 2017
- GSS restored CSD
- GSS added G11
- CSD was contested by a 3rd editor (me) - wrongfully contested as a non-admin
- GSD restored CSD a 4th time
- GSS 💬 18:06, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- GSS, You're citing "policy" that doesn't exist. Your behavior is extremely bitey, and you have now convinced me that your incompetence and hostility towards new users disqualifies your from holding any advanced permissions. Vexations (talk) 18:16, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oh really? These new users were abusing WP:MEAT and sockpuppetry was filled for the same. GSS 💬 18:19, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- GSS, don't do this. You filed that SPI. Stop now before this escalates. File the AfD if you have to. Provide a good argument that supports a claim of non-notability, include an analysis of the sources and let the discussion take place. This is not an uncontroversial deletion, and you by now have acted in contravention of several policies.
- Be nice to the newbies. Apologize to those you have accused of acting in bad faith and move on. Vexations (talk) 18:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oh really? These new users were abusing WP:MEAT and sockpuppetry was filled for the same. GSS 💬 18:19, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- GSS, You're citing "policy" that doesn't exist. Your behavior is extremely bitey, and you have now convinced me that your incompetence and hostility towards new users disqualifies your from holding any advanced permissions. Vexations (talk) 18:16, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
G4 not plausible
editThe first version of this allegedly re-posted article not only showed that the sourced were retrieved recently, but it also contained a references that were published AFTER the article was deleted [1] and [2]. I had good reasons to believe that the editors involved were acting in good faith, and my decision to decline G4 was based on good evidence. Vexations (talk) 18:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)