Talk:Robert Lovell Gwatkin

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Charles Matthews in topic Cousins

Son William?

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The Canadian businessman Robert Colin Gwatkin (1819–1889) claimed to be a grandson of Robert Lovell Gwatkin, born in Clifton, but the reference is a bit shaky. The claimed father William, died age 29, would be another son. Charles Matthews (talk) 05:42, 20 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Cousins

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Richard Gwatkin (born 1791) is the father of Henry Melvill Gwatkin. His connection with RLG can be made out. Thomas I had sons Thomas II and John, with John the grandfather of RLG; and Thomas II married Rebecca Seward.[1] Richard Gwatkin of Wadham College was a son of Thomas II, and "Thomas Gwatkin of Hereford, clerk", or Thomas IV, was his nephew.[2]

There were three sons and a daughter of the marriage,[3] so "Thomas Gwatkin of Hereford, clerk" was son of Thomas III or John II. Richard Gwatkin (born 1791) of St John's College, Cambridge is in Venn as "S. of T., clerk [and Jane]. B. Sept. 17, 1791, at Hereford." Therefore Richard and RLG are one generation apart, second cousins once removed. Charles Matthews

John Cam Hobhouse also had a relationship to RLG, somewhat tenuous. His father was Benjamin Hobhouse, son of the merchant John Hobhouse, of Westbury.[4] And John Hobhouse's second marriage was to Susannah Hobhouse, sister of Edward Gwatkin father of RLG. See [5] for the Gwatkin side of that, and [6] for the Hobhouse side. Those references differ on whether Susannah had issue.

(talk) 15:40, 23 June 2016 (UTC)Reply