Talk:Rittmaster

Moved

This was moved last November without discussion, or even a good reason. The edit summary stated
"In this case there's an English term".
If there is an English term in this case I've yet to hear it; "Rotamaster" isn't even a fair translation (Ritt = ride, not rota) and doesn't appear in the OED. In any event Rittmeister is common enough in English as a borrowed term to satisfy WP:TITLE.
I suggest if anyone wants the page moved they take it to WP:RM and provide a decent (preferably accurate!) rationale. Moonraker12 (talk) 13:44, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Rotmistr

I've moved the information on the Polish, Lithuanian and Russian ranks down, as I'm not at all sure they are the same thing. The German term is (presumaby) derived from Ritter (rider, or knight) and the rank commands a troop (which is about 15 men); the Polish term (it is claimed) is from the name of a formation (a rota) of about six. So are they related? Or is it just that, coincidentally, they sound similar? Moonraker12 (talk) 14:41, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

There was an early-modern rank of "Rottmeister" in german military too, which is to be found and described in various war manuals of that period (Kriegsbuch Fronsbergers, Dillich a.s.o.). Since the polish (lithuanian as well) military was at its hayday during that period one can make a connection to "Rottmeister" back then rather as towards "Rittmeister" (which is a more modern term for "Reyter-Obrist").--78.52.29.155 (talk) 12:36, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Merge with rotmistrz

In late reply to User:Moonraker12 old comments above: the rotmistrz article was merged here in 2010 [1] by User:UeArtemis, without any discussion (through granted, UeArtemis did ask a question at Talk:Rotmistrz to which nobody replied). The merger might have been a mistake, but a more throughout review of the topic is needed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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Not "was"

As usual this article was written with a quite heavy German-centric focus. Rittmeister isn't exclusively a German rank or even a German word. It is a native word in the Scandinavian languages, even with the exact spelling rittmeister in one of the two official forms of Norwegian (the exact spelling isn't of much importance anyway, since spellings change over time, both in German and in the Scandinavian languages). It is a rank in the Norwegian cavalry to this day, with a history dating back to the 16th century, and officially ranks as OF-2 within NATO. Rittmeister is not a thing of the past. --Petterstørv (talk) 20:14, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Riding master

I would like to propose that this page is moved to Riding master. Rittmeister is simply Riding master in Scandi/German. Wikipedia articles are normally named in their English terms. I don't see anything distinctive in the article that would make Riding master as a title unsuitable. It would also help as then the article could be broadened to bring in British army usage, and from other English speaking countries.Wayne Jayes (talk) 08:32, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

English name

Maybe we could move the article to the "cavalry master" or "riding master" as they would be an English translation of the title?TheEditMate (talk) 22:33, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Move to Rittmeister

this article is about the German military rank of Rittmeister and its derived terms in various European militaries. "Rittmaster" is not one of them, not a common name in English, just an odd semi-translation. The other suggestion of "riding master" doesn't make much sense either because that's not a real military title, and as a proper noun Rittmeister isn't usually translated when discussed in literature. (Regarding some other suggestions on this page, Rittmeister is very clearly a German word and rank that was adopted by other militaries. Scandinavia especially had German officers in charge of their militaries for centuries, which adopted many traditions, but that doesnt make the origins of it less apparent.) — jonas (talk) 13:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)