Talk:Racism in Iran

Latest comment: 1 year ago by LouisAragon in topic Content

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@Aintabli:

  • The sentence: "Racism in Iran encompasses various manifestations of racism between the inhabitants of the country.[1]" -- although its quite a general statement, its not supported by the given source
  • The sentence: "As late as August 2019, the UN's anti-racism panel found the Islamic republic of Iran discriminating and practicing wide racism against Arabs, Kurds, Baluch, and other ethnic minorities, " -- fails WP:VER (the source is a 2014 Fox News article, yet is supposedly reporting on a 2019 situation?), plus I don't think its a proper WP:RS source to use even if it was supporting the content (see also; WP:RSN on Fox News [1]).
  • The sentence "Discrimination and racism against Afghan refugees in Iran are widespread." -- none of the given references in the lede supports this.
  • The sentence "Tork-e Khar is a common phrase used for Azerbaijanis, literally meaning the "donkey Turk".[6]" -- is not supported by the given reference either. The passage in the book on pp.12-13 (not just p.13, p.12 is part of it too) mentions this:

"Many Iranians often claim that “Shi’ism is an Iranian religion” and these same Iranians look down upon their Arab and Turkish/Turkic neighbors. They have invented all sorts of epithets for these neighbors—especially the Arabs—both Sunni and their fellow Shi’ite Arabs—and have labeled them Mush-Khor (i.e., rodent eaters) and Marmulak-Khor (i.e., lizard eaters). Arabs, especially the Shi’ite Arabs, resent Persian cultural imperialism and respond, “If you break open the bone of a Persian, shi*t comes out” [in Arabic: idha tiksar ‘admu, titla’ khara]. Persians also look down on Turks and call them donkeys (in Persian: “Tork-e Khar”)."

The passage neither infers that "Tork-e Khar" is "a common phrase", nor that it is used "for [Iranian] Azerbaijanis".

This article can surely be better written, while taking proper care of the guidelines. - LouisAragon (talk) 00:03, 15 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

@LouisAragon This is not an article I really wished to spend time on but deemed it as necessary. I copy-pasted the first paragraph, except for the introductory sentence, with the first three references from Racism in Asia#Iran. Those are not my work. Free feel to edit.
Thank you for your comments about the part on tork-e khar. On the next page or two, they discuss the situation of Azerbaijanis, so that was what made me assume "Turk" referred to them, but I added another source just in case and replaced "common" with "traditionally" a term used in the new source. Aintabli (talk) 00:01, 15 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Oops I was adjusting my comment while you were posting your reply. Thanks for the additional sources. - LouisAragon (talk) 00:03, 15 June 2023 (UTC)Reply