Talk:Pythian Baseball Club

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Can someone move this page back to its proper title: Pythian Base Ball Club? Baseball was not spelled as one word until later in the 1870s/80s. From what I can tell, most sources list this club with the then-used two-word "base ball".

Move back to proper spelling ("Base Ball")

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The result of the move request was: the submitter 64.85.220.160 boldly Merged Pythian Baseball Club into Philadelphia Pythians. Steel1943 (talk) 16:31, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Pythian Baseball Club → Pythian Base Ball Club – Baseball was not spelled as one word until later in the 1870s/80s. From what I can tell, most sources list this club with the then-used two-word "base ball". Does anyone object to this move? Rgrds. --64.85.221.22 (talk) 18:02, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, it has been 8 days with no objections so I requested a move via WP:RM. Rgrds. --64.85.214.219 (talk) 15:43, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

• Comment. The reason why you did not get any responses for you move request is most likely due to the fact that you did not post the move properly per WP:RM. I'm going to go ahead and do so, since just because you did not get any responses does not automatically deem this to be a technical move. Steel1943 (talk) 03:24, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

This discussion has now been listed properly. I'm going to vote No Opinion due to the fact that I do see that this article was moved from Pythian Base Ball Club to Pythian Baseball Club by User:GoingBatty on February 18, 2012. However, I am unsure which spelling is the correct spelling, so I am not voting with an opinion. Steel1943 (talk) 03:34, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

• Comment. No objection to moving it back, as long as the article text and references clearly state that "Base Ball" is intentional. (see Vintage base ball for an example). Sorry if I caused a problem by assuming this was a typo. GoingBatty (talk) 15:06, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

• Comment @Steel1943 Please do not move around my comments, I have restored my original comments in the original place.
• Second, this is bureaucracy overkill. When the article was moved with no discussion, that was the "B" of WP:BRD. I then "R" because it was incorrect (but IPs cannot revert a move for technical reasons). I then initiated the "D" of BRD. No one cared to participate. The original title should be restored and we should be discussing the first move.
• Third, no posting of the move is necessary at RM in these situations, as per the instructions on WP:RM. This was an uncontroversial reversion of an undiscussed move. Weather they call it a "technical move", as they do now, or an "uncontroversial move" as they did a few months ago, the instructions do not require nor even suggest listing it at RM in such a situation. I know you have only been editing for just around a year, so I am assuming good faith, but please refresh yourself on proper Wikipedia procedures. Rgrds. Note, I am the same person as the above 2 IPS. (Dynamic IP, will change when I log off.) --64.85.220.160 (talk) 12:24, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

When I went back and read that, it sounded so very rude, I have stuck it and I apologize. --64.85.220.160 (talk) 12:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

• 64.85.220.160, thank you responding to your comment earlier. I actually was about to save my response to your comment, but will now withdraw, given this follow-up. By the way, my purpose with this was to line up this move discussion so that other editors would be able to properly discuss this topic, and it looks like a resolution was made. Either way, regarding your original request, I felt like I could "reasonably disagree with the move" (a quote taken directly out of WP:RM/TR); I would have contested this move regardless, making this move subject to the very discussion we are having right now per WP:RM. And I gave WP:BUREAU a look ... anyways, I'm going to post a response to that on my own talk page since I know that IPs do not have user pages. Anyways, good catch on finding that article, and good job being bold! If I had seen the necessary merge that you just performed, I would have merged the two articles as well. Steel1943 (talk) 16:27, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

• ...and looks like I'm actually posting it onto your talk page, since it looks like IPs get talk pages ... eh, you learn move every day! Steel1943 (talk) 16:32, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

• Merge with Philadelphia Pythians. Royal Facepalm. I just noticed that this is a duplicate of an existing article. --64.85.220.160 (talk) 12:58, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
  • I merged the articles with the lede containing all of the alt. names (The Philadelphia Pythians (also Pythian Base Ball Club or Pythian Baseball Club) were founded in....). Please close this trainwreck of a move request. Rgrds. 64.85.220.160 (talk) 13:56, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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