Talk:Pulmonary edema

Symptoms of pulmonary edema include difficulty breathing, coughing up blood, excessive sweating, anxiety and pale skin. If left untreated, it can lead to coma and even death, generally due to its main complication of hypoxia.

How does a Pulmonary edema differ from a pleural effusion, they both refer to fluid in the lunges. Are they synonymous, or is there a difference, of location, or cause? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stanton13 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Plural effusion is a buildup of fluid in the cavity surrounding the lungs, pulmonary oedema is fluid inside the lungs --121.223.243.95 (talk) 11:38, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Clinical features

doi:10.1001/jama.294.15.1944 (JAMA 2005): "Does This Dyspneic Patient in the Emergency Department Have Congestive Heart Failure?" Might warrant inclusion. JFW | T@lk 10:32, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Cardiogenic pulmonary edema vs. cardiac asthma

Cardiogenic pulmonary edema redirects to this article. Is cardiac asthma considered the same condition, and if so, should that article be merged with this one? --SoledadKabocha (talk) 20:02, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, cardiac asthma is caused by pulmonary oedema. I cannot currently comment on a merge, but it seems reasonable provided we link the terminology somewhere. JFW | T@lk 16:30, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

The section, Cardiogenic pulmonary edema is the same condition as the section Flash Pulmonary Edema and these two should be merged. I don't think Cardiac Asthma is any different except that some people with acute cardiogenic pulmonary edema also known as flash pulmonary edema have wheezing as a manifestation. Reknihtdivad (talk) 01:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Guideline

doi:10.1016/j.jacc.2013.05.019 is the new ACC/AHA guideline for heart failure. It might include useful stuff for acute cardiogenic pulmonary oedema. JFW | T@lk 16:30, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Are these different?

Are Immersion pulmonary edema and Swimming induced pulmonary edema different? This is implied by the article, but what is the difference? • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 16:18, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

"Not to be confused with Pneumonia"

O.K., but then how they different? A quick explanation is warranted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D09:AE82:3D00:5069:5B82:88A0:82F2 (talk) 04:45, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: WikiProject Medicine Winter 2024 UCF COM

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 January 2024 and 2 February 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Bdaines8 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Bdaines8 (talk) 17:01, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Work Plan

Overall:

- Add additional categories to line up with  "Diseases or disorders or syndromes" MED MOS

- Evaluate for balanced coverage, neutral content

- Remove and update sources for newer studies if indicated

Lead/Summary:

- Update to latest guidelines/classifications- majority of sources 5-10+ years old

- Update treatment summary

Classification:

- Change from "types" to classification

- Cardiogenic

○ Link to CHF, add additional background

- Noncardiogenic

○ Organize by causes? (Obstructive, Neuro, Iatrogenic, Fluid overload, special: High altitude, etc.

§ Link to diseases commonly associated with as above

- Causes- subheading within classification

Signs & Symptoms

- Clean up & add additional sources

- Consider organize by organ system to expand/clarify

Causes:

- Include above in classification section

Mechanism: create section

- Quick breakdown of pathophysiology with diagrams where possible

Diagnosis:

- Organize by labs vs test

- Add additional imaging/ultrasound findings/pictures

- Additional testing and usage

Prevention:

- Secondary vs primary prevention

Management:

- Management order

- Structure in relation to cause if possible

- Link to various management indicated

Outcomes/Prognosis: create section

Epidemiology: create section

Bdaines8 (talk) 17:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi,

For peer review:

Overall, I think you made some great updates to this article that make it a lot easier to follow especially with the new sections added. I think any suggestions I have are just regarding some minor grammar changes and little adjustments to maybe aid with better readability.

- Second paragraph in lead: first sentence should be diagnose instead of diagnosis

- Maybe consider removing firstly, secondly, thirdly in this sentence and just list them out as you have already stated it is focused on 3 things: “firstly improving respiratory function, secondly, treating the underlying cause, and thirdly preventing further damage and assuring full recovery to the lung.”

- After sudden (acute) there should be a comma

- This sentence causing can be changed to leading or remove the “to” after causing: “Imbalance in any of these forces can cause fluid movement (or lack of movement) causing to a buildup of fluid where it should not normally be. “

- There are a lot of words and phrases that are linked throughout the article such as the word dyspnea and then there is a phrase in parenthesis to explain the meaning. I think that if you removed the phrases in parenthesis it would be easier to read as hovering over the links already provides the definition

- May not need to add as discussed above in first paragraph of classification because it was discussed in lead but that is a summary anyways

- Don’t know if you need to define acute or chronic in classification, I would either use a different word to summarize or just take out that part

- Bullet of congestive heart failure: not sure if you need to include second sentence discussing causes of congestive heart failure as there is a link that can be clicked for more information regarding that

- Do you need fluid accumulation after pulmonary edema since you are describing it already in this article

- Maybe break this into two sentences: “Sildenafil is used as a preventive treatment for altitude-induced pulmonary edema and pulmonary hypertension, the mechanism of action is via phosphodiesterase inhibition which raises cGMP, resulting in pulmonary arterial vasodilation and inhibition of smooth muscle cell proliferation and indirectly fluid formation in the lungs.”

Again, I think overall the changes made are great and help focus attention on what’s important and how everything can be broken down with the use of new sections. I just had a couple of thoughts on some minor things to just simplify a bit. Szali123 (talk) 04:54, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

I forgot to add this, but I also think all your changes match up well with your work plan! Szali123 (talk) 04:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the feedback, I went through and incorporated most of your suggested changes! Bdaines8 (talk) 19:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)