Talk:Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion

Dear Yann,

You are still too quick I think. We have not yet established that the Wikisource is in fact this text under this title. Notice the absence of the word "Meetings." That's an important distinguishing feature. Please remove that Wikisource Template until we know with some certainty that the two items are in fact one and the same. Best to you, --Ludvikus 05:55, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

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This article here should probably be Merged with the article named above. However, this will require (some more) non-Original research. --Ludvikus 07:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

WP:OWN

Re this comment embedded in the article:

{{poli-book-stub}} Pure Antisemitic (especially the Protocols of Zion) items are not to be so classified.

Since the Protocols were used as a political tool, it's reasonable to assign a political tag. However, since their primary aim was to discredit Jews, {{reli-book-stub}} would do even better. A gentle reminder, though, that no one owns this article and that other editors may have valuable contributions and insights. Cheers, Her Pegship (tis herself) 19:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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• I suggest that you look and read:
  Main article: Protocols of the Elders of Zion
  . Many, many WP editors have worked on that & the subject is exactly as the current one. Yet the article is not classified as a religious book. --Ludvikus 01:36, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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• I suggest that you look at Protocols of the Elders of Zion and read:

"The Protocols...takes the form of an instruction manual to a new member of the "elders," describing how they will run the world through control of the media and finance, and replace the traditional social order with one based on mass manipulation." Since world domination is a political theme, I tagged it as political. Since you didn't like that, and anti-semitism is by definition a religious issue, I changed it to religious. Just because it's a hoax doesn't mean it can't fall into either of these categories. Perhaps you have a problem with the non-fiction tag as well -- maybe the {{book-stub}} tag too. Perhaps it should only have the {{stub}} tag, since you are determined to have your way and revert any good faith attempts to sort these articles into a useful category. Many, many WP editors have compromised a little in order to cooperate with community efforts at creating this resource. Her Pegship (tis herself) 04:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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• I've spent quite a bit of time creating these articles. And I've contacted you early on about the problem that there may not be any adequate {{stub}} for what the Library of Congress calls controversial literature. But you just ignored me on the matter.
• All this literature has been called a Warrant for Genocide by Norman Cohn. It was the basis on which Hitler justified sending Jews into his extermination camps to be gased and thereafer incinerated.
• Yet you call this literture political and religious and get upset at me over your intelligence because I tell you how very, very, mistaken you are. --Ludvikus 04:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

"This article or section is missing citations or needs footnotes."

Will the editor who posted the Tag please explain further what he objects too? Yours truly, --Ludvikus 00:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

• This notorious imprint is described on page 41 of the Singerman list by Singerman. What better citation I cannot imagine. Yours truly, --Ludvikus 00:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Please read carefully what the tag says. See wikipedia:Inline citations on how to create them. Mukadderat 17:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)