Talk:Princess Caroline of Hesse-Rotenburg

Latest comment: 13 years ago by FactStraight

Titulature documentation Here is my documentation, as previously cited in the footnotes and referred to in the edit summary. Where is yours? I edited the article to show that her correct title before marriage was "Princess Caroline of Hesse-Rheinfels-Rotenburg", this is thoroughly documented in Huberty's L'Allemagne Dynastique, Tome I - Hesse, Reuss, Saxe. Pages 129-130 give this as her exact title. Pages 146-147 clarify that this remained the title of cadets of this dynasty until 1654, when "Rheinfels" was dropped. Although male cadets and females of the junior Hesse-Darmstadt and Hesse-Homburg branches used the title "Landgrave/Landgravine" into the late 18th and early 19th centuries, only the heads of the Kassel branches did likewise: cadets and females of the Hesse-Kassel, Hesse-Philipsthal, Hesse-Rheinfels-Rotenburg, Hesse-Eschwege and Hesse-Wanfried branches took the title of Prince/Princess in the late 17th century. Please quote any documentation and its source which provides more reliable and more specific information on this matter While requesting a reliable source for her sister Polyxena's title that justifies any title different from the reference I cited, PBS commented on her talk page, "It does not matter what the kids are called. What matters is what the reliable sources use. please list the ones that support your POV." People turn to an encyclopedia not to learn what terms are popularly used but to discover precisely what terms are correct. In this case, I readily concede that she is often called "Landgravine" and her suffix is often given as "Hesse-Rotenburg". But I have provided her correct title in the article, along with footnoted documentation on the source, and it is: "Princess Caroline of Hesse-Rheinfels-Rotenburg", without "Serene Highness" or "Highness". I have been shown nothing which states anything different by a source which has a higher reputation for accuracy in the matter of dynastic titulature than Huberty, Giraud and Magdelaine's L'Allemagne Dynastique. FactStraight (talk) 20:07, 25 November 2010 (UTC)Reply