Talk:Pokémon X and Y/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Anarchyte (talk · contribs) 07:54, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

I'm long overdue for a GA review, so I'll do this soon. Right off the bat, I can say there are no issues with copyright or stability and the files are properly tagged. Anarchyte (work | talk) 07:54, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Okay, here are some comments. Anarchyte (work | talk) 04:43, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

• @Juxlos: @Anarchyte: I know I have a sandbox lying around somewhere with a ton of links regarding X and Y that I collected while redoing the List of Pokémon and creating the revamped sub-pages. I'll dig around for it tomorrow. Don't let this review go without me confirming that there's no additional info from them :P ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 07:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
  • @Cyclonebiskit: Too easy. I'll leave it on hold while you take a look and Juxlos finishes cleaning up the errors. Anarchyte (work | talk) 07:51, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
    • FOUND IT! Strikethroughs only apply to what I used in the main list and not for this article so decent amount of reading to catch up on... ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 08:21, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Lead

• They are the first installments in the sixth generation of the Pokémon series of role-playing games. No need to say "of role-playing games". It's already mentioned earlier and all Pokemon games are RPGs. By saying "of role-playing games", it gives the impression some aren't.
  • Replaced with of the Pokémon core series of games, which is probably a better pointer.
• What does special mean here? through a special Nintendo Direct. Was it exclusive?
  • It was a "Pokémon Direct", and 100% of its contents are X and Y, yes. Link.
• each game follows → both games follow
  • Fixed
• This time, the game → This time, the games. This is about two games, so plural.
  • Fixed
• with the object of the game being to thwart → with the objective being to thwart
  • Fixed
• the large innovation that the developers brought to the franchise Remove "large".
  • Done, and used innovations instead.
• As of December 31, 2017, the games have sold 16.26 million copies, becoming the second best-selling games on the system. How about As of December 31, 2017, 16.26 million copies had been sold, making X and Y the best-selling games on the system.
  • Done, but used As of December 31, 2017, a combined 16.26 million copies have been sold, making X and Y the second best-selling games on the system. since there are 2 games being sold.

Gameplay

• It is also the first → They are the first (also, Pokemon should be in italics here as it's talking about the series, not the species)
  • Fixed
• but compatible with the 3D hardware of the Nintendo 3DS family of systems. Quite jumbled, in my opinion. Do we need to say "family of systems"?
  • Would it be doable to just use Nintendo 3DS family? Although then again, it's not compatible with the 3D in 2DS due to the fact that they don't exist.
    • Compatible with the 3D consoles in the Nintendo 3DS family. How about that?
      • Done. Juxlos (talk) 14:32, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
• and win battles against other trainers while training their own. "while training their own" is repetition as it's mentioned earlier in the sentence (catch and train creatures)
  • Removed
• the player's Pokémon gains experience I could be wrong, but I don't think "gains" should be pluralised here.
  • I hate the fact that TPC makes Pokémon singular and plural at the same time. Fixed.
• by weakening them in battle by depleting their health and catching them with Poké Balls, allowing them to be added to their party. → by weakening and catching them with Poké Balls, allowing them to be added to their party.
  • That sounds like the Poké Balls are weakening them as well. Would by weakening them in battle and catching them with Poké Balls to be add to the player's party. be better?
    • Yup, that works.
      • Done. Juxlos (talk) 14:32, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
• using the Nintendo 3DS's Internet features, which was also newly enhanced in the 6th generation of games → using the Nintendo 3DS's online features, which was enhanced alongside the sixth generation of Pokémon games. ("also" is unnecessary. "newly" is redundant if it goes on to mention when it got updated).
  • Done
• obtain all Pokémon from both versions. "from both versions" is unnecessary.
  • Done
• There is no reference at the end of the first paragraph in #New features.
  • The aforementioned feature appears to be only mentioned in fansites and editable wikis. I'm convinced it exists but it lacks proper sourcing so I'll remove it under the assumption that it's not important enough.
• many additions that X & Y brought Should be X and Y.
  • Done
• What is a "blind trade"?
  • Elaborated as Wonder Trade is a new trading feature which allows players to trade one of their Pokémon in exchange for a random one from another player. Would this explain well enough?
    • Yes.

Story

• then sets out on → begins
• travel Kalos. Missing a word here.
• They capture the Legendary Pokémon. If this game is like every other Pokemon game I've played, catching the legendary is optional (you can defeat it). Should this be They are able to capture the Legendary Pokémon
  • Capturing the legendary is required for the story to progress in this instance (as it is in Black and White). ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 07:19, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
    • Don't worry then.

Development

• revealed the three main themes of X and Y to be beauty, bonds, and evolution → were to be. The game was still in development, so it'd be better to say "were" as it indicates this.
  • Source is from a month before release, and changing it to "were" would indicate that these themes were changed at some point. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 07:24, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
    • This is fine then. Anarchyte (work | talk) 04:17, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
• Masuda felt France to → Masuda considered France to
• he brought a team to the country for study in 2011. Unless Masuda lives in France, this should be he sent a team to the country for research in 2011.
  • Above two handled. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 07:24, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Reception

• having an aggregate score of 87% and 88%, Unnecessary given the score's appearance in the table to the right. Better to write garnering "generally favorable reviews" according to review aggregator Metacritic
• As changing this affects the next sentence, I suggest modifying it to: The positive reception allowed X and Y to claim the 15th and 13th highest-rated games on the Nintendo 3DS, respectively
• of 9, 10, 10, and 10. Given the article doesn't tell us what any of these numbers actually mean, I suggest changing the whole sentence to awarded the game a near-perfect score, earning it the publication's Platinum Award
• just behind → behind only
• I don't see how Griffin McElroy's review relates to anything said in the previous few sentences as they all seem to be about the design. Perhaps this should be moved to a more relevant paragraph? Try merging it with Joystiq's review: Joystiq and Polygon both praised the gameplay, with Joystiq calling it "hands-down the best in the series", and that the game could be enjoyed equally by both veterans and newcomers to the franchise. This also helps to cut down on "x said y".
• IGN stated that the PSS → IGN proclaimed the PSS
• Game Informer Eurogamer Which one? I assume Eurogamer given the source.
• through a team of more than six → through a team greater than six
• Every single publication should be in italics.
• In cases like Eurogamer where there are names, use the names instead of the publication every time after the first. ("Simon Parkin of Eurogamer" and then simply Parkin therein)
  • I think I got all but the last one. I'll deal with working names in tomorrow after I get some sleep. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 07:38, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
  • The last part should be done, unless I missed one or two. Juxlos (talk) 14:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

References

• Are we sure about the reliability of Anime News Network? It's not listed on WP:VG/RS and there doesn't seem to be a disclosed author.
  • I think it is (probably at WP:ANIMANGA instead?) but replaced the first source anyway with this. Second ANN reference can't exactly be found in a more reliable source so I'm holding on it Juxlos (talk) 14:29, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
• Link all uses of Kotaku and remove the .com from Kotaku.com in some.
  • Done Juxlos (talk) 14:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
• Expand NWR to be Nintendo World Report.
  • Done Juxlos (talk) 14:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
• Make sure, if there's an article, all websites and publishers are wikilinked. Additionally, make sure all websites have a publisher if possible (I see some blank IGNs and Polygons)
  • Done for Famitsu, IGN and Polygon. Juxlos (talk) 14:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
• Double check that nothing's dead or not archived with IABot.
  • Done and archived some. Juxlos (talk) 19:30, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
• Ref 63 is dead.
  • Resolved Juxlos (talk) 07:46, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written? A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors: B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists: Is it factually accurate and verifiable? A. Has an appropriate reference section: B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary: C. No original research: Is it broad in its coverage? A. Major aspects: B. Focused: Is it neutral? Fair representation without bias: Is it stable? No edit wars, etc: Does it contain images to illustrate the topic? A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content: B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions: Overall: Pass or Fail: (Passed)

On hold. @Juxlos:. Anarchyte (work | talk) 07:12, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

@Juxlos and Cyclonebiskit: I found one more error with the references. Cyclone, if you don't find anything vital in your list, I'll be happy to pass this. Anarchyte (work | talk) 04:28, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

@Anarchyte: two sources have additional info that can be added in but all the core information necessary is present in the article. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 13:55, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

@Juxlos and Cyclonebiskit: This mentions the story is somewhat based off the French Revolution. Perhaps a short sentence about this could be added to #Story. If neither of you can think of anything else to add afterwards, I'll pass this Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:51, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

@Anarchyte and Cyclonebiskit: That article in particular seems to infer about the French Revolution connection without any basis from the game developers themselves, should that really be added? Juxlos (talk) 13:52, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Your probably right, Juxlos. I see no reason to hold this back any longer, so . Anarchyte (work | talk) 04:11, 20 February 2018 (UTC)