Talk:Philip de Braose

Latest comment: 12 years ago by Dougatwiki in topic Old and New Shoreham

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The information on his mother as being "Agnes de St. Clare (born 1048 to 1054) (died 1080) of Barnstaple in Devon." is not referenced. The following is clearly relevant...

http://www.geneajourney.com/harcrt.html#noteb - Anschetil de Harcourt is said to have married Eve de Boissey, although this may be more of a guess based upon the fact that the later Harcourts held Boissey-le-Chatel. Irregardless of her name, she subsequently married William de Briouze (Braose), Lord of Bramber, by whom she had Philip de Braose, called the brother of Robert de Harcourt, son of Anschetil, in a document dated 1104. Other contemporary references to this Philip de Braose as paternal uncle to Robert de Harcourt's sons, appear to confirm that they were half-brothers, of the same mother. Tradition says that he had sons Errand (d about 1078, s.p.), Robert, Jean, Arnoul, Gervais, Ives, Renaud, and Agnes.

Pyobon (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:30, 15 August 2010 (UTC).Reply

I agree that there is a lot of uncertainty about Philip's mother. I don't think Philip gained the lordship of Totnes either as is asserted below. I think the paragraph needs a complete rewrite.--Doug (talk) 17:14, 15 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Old and New Shoreham

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I have removed the sentence "He was responsible for the building of St. Nicolas' Church, Old Shoreham in Sussex and founded the port at New Shoreham." St Nicolas was a Saxon church. It was extensively altered about 1140, probably after Philip's time. The Victoria County History of Sussex says "New Shoreham was established apparently in the decade 1086-96 by William de Braose or his son Philip:". There is no certainty that it was founded by Philip. Doug (at Wiki) 12:10, 20 November 2011 (UTC)Reply