Talk:Penguindrum

Genre of the Anime Mawaru Penguindrum

The genre listing for this series is a puzzle to define. "Drama", which for awhile was the only genre tag on the main article, by itself is insufficient. "Drama" combined with "Fantasy" and "Mystery", however, is a fairly good and unbiased genre listing that's probably accurate enough to stand as permanent. (Even if unsourced.) I cited Imbd, Rightstuf, and Anime New Network, of which two were removed for being unreliable, and a third was specified as unreliable but left intact. I don't have any major issue with removing objectively unreliable sources. My main issue is that there is absolutely no western news sources that specify Mawaru Penguindrum's genre at all...or really any coverage for that matter. I put the "Drama" and "Fantasy" tags up because they were the most neutral, general, and unbiased tags I could think of, and were the only tags I could verify in any way. I do think that this disparity warrants a discussion, however. The only reliable sources I've found with reviews on this anime were THEM, The Artifice, Capsule Computers, MangaUK, Theaterbyte, and OtakuUSAMagazine. That's it. None of them specify a genre. (THEM, somewhat humorously, states "Who Knows?" in their genre box.) Personally, I'd opt to let the genre tags stand, but you could really make a case that the show should be listed as "Supernatural" or "Magical Girl" instead of "Fantasy". (Given the fact the show fundamentally doesn't happen in an alternative world, and its obvious inclusion of Princess of the Crystals.) You could make the case for "Suspense" or "Psychological Thriller" instead of "Mystery" (Given the inclusion of Terrorism as a theme, numerous deviant sexual themes, and a heightened and consistent sense of rising action from episode to episode.) You could even argue for "Tragedy" instead of "Drama". (Given the inclusion of Shakespearian aesthetics, like the play framing, and especially the show's ending) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.201.179.146 (talk) 13:37, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Ringo as a lying narrator

Given the timeline of the series I cannot make heads or tails of Ringo's belief the diary was her sister, and considering how batshit crazy she is, I don't think she can be used as a reliable source. Momoka died March 20, 1994, Ringo was born March 20, 1995. This is from the calender in Ringo's flashback and her parents talk. But if Ringo was about 10 when Keiju was in high school, and Keiju and Momoka were the same age, this would make Momoka 6 or 7 when she died. So I don't really think she could have written a huge diary in the first place, much less one with plans for a maternity project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.130.116.215 (talk) 04:41, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

The identity of Mario

Mario is most likely NOT Himari, because, well, look at her hair. Then look at Mario's hair. Orange. Yellow. Also, Mario is not wearing a *dress* that flows hips-down, instead, Mario is wearing what appears to be a cape. The only connection is their matching Penguin hats, catch phrase, and glowing pink eyes. EDIT: A person with blond hair and wearing a Penguin hat is seen in the first Flashback of episode 9. This person could be Mario. EDIT: The original scene the flashback supposedly covered is DIFFERENT, as Mario is not seen in this scene. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.105.237.156 (talk) 18:52, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Memories

Memories are a major theme in this anime. Natsume has a slingshot that can erase memories. Ringo supposedly follows a diary that contains past memories. Episode 9 is a flashback episode which covers Himari's supposed memories. Natsume seems to be a girl from Kanba's past, as she presents him with objects asking if he "remembers." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.105.237.156 (talk) 19:15, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Himari as Princess of the Crystal

Surfing around, I've spotted references to Himari with Penguin hat as "Princess of the Crystal" (プリンセス・オフ・ザ・クリスタル) . This isn't mentioned in the article however. --Bxj (talk) 04:50, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

MASSACRE

What MASSACRE  ? 109.64.198.235 (talk) 05:42, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Source drop for reception

John Oppliger, analyst for AnimeNation, presenting a priliminary interpretation of the work [1]. AngelFire3423 (talk) 23:26, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

English name

According to the Sentai Filmworks release, [2], it seems that there is a space between Penguin and Drum so I am not sure if the move was correct or not.--iGeMiNix 01:21, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

The move was correct, as they merged the words on the Region 1 DVD cover. [3] Hugosworld92 (talk) 19:25, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Ah, very well then, I will move it back again.--iGeMiNix 03:33, 24 November 2012 (UTC)