Talk:Parashurama (disambiguation)

Disambiguation

The name of Parashurama, the avatar of Vishnu, is almost always spelled with a terminal "a". It is unlikely that someone searching for "Parshuram" would be searching for the deity. I propose that Parshuram direct to the page on the Bangladeshi district, with this page added in a See also section. Gamesmaster G-9 (talk) 23:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I need your advice on this one:

• Why should Parashuram redirect only to the Bangladesh area Parshuram? Why should the Parashuram (the writer) and Parashuram (the film) not be considered eligible for redirect? Is it possible to redirect one page to three articles?

I don't think Parashuram should redirect to the district. Usually, a name redirects to the most common usage of the term. If there is no single common usage, then we need a db. Gamesmaster G-9 (talk) 07:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

• Was the pen name of the writer and the title of the film inspired by some other Parashuram? If yes, then we need the "Parashuram" page to disambiguate even more. If no, then apparently people can and do spell Parashuram differently.

The writer chose his name from an acquaintance who had nothing to do with the deity. Gamesmaster G-9 (talk) 07:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

• Why should we need a "Parashurama (disambiguation)", when apparently there's nothing/no one but the avatar using that spelling, and quite a number of other things/people using the the slightly different spelling (i.e. without the terminal "a")? Why should we have a redirect page when there are a few claimants to that title, and why should we have a disambiguation page when there is no other claimant to that title?

You are right. With multiple spellings, it would be better to disambiguate directly. Gamesmaster G-9 (talk) 07:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

• Are disambiguation pages created on the merit of the divinity of the subject, or are they created on the need of removing ambiguity? At least one person had created the "Parashuram" page to redirect to Rajshekhar Basu the writer, and I have come this in the same way.

I may be a complete ignorant, and I can't see how Parashuram is not superseding this page, or why this page is needed at all. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 02:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

• BTW, Aditya do not remove contents (here) by simply replacing speedy deletion template. Administrator will take appropriate action when consensus is reached.--NAHID 06:05, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

NAHID, if you have nothing substantial to contribute to a discussion, why don't you just stay off? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 14:18, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

My proposal is as follows - Parshuram should redirect to the district and Parashurama should remain as it is (direct to the article on the deity), but we add a disambiguation at the top of the page. Finally, we have a disambiguation page for the writer and the film, which have the same spelling. Gamesmaster G-9 (talk) 07:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I see where the misunderstanding lies. Parshuram already redirects to Parashurama (I had nothing to do with it), and there is this Parashurama (disambiguation) page which leads to Rajshekhar Basu and an avatar of Vishhnu. Perhaps you have not notice that the new disambiguation page deals with "Parashuram", with an "a" following "r" and none following "m" (while Parshuram does it with none following either).

In Bengali Parashurama is either Parshuram or Parashurama (never with an "a" that follows the "m", and the chance of an "a" following the "r" is about one in two), it sometimes can als be Porshuram (and that doesn't apply only to Bangladesh upazilas, as Bengali as a language uses rounded sounds more than Samskrit or Hindi)). I don't know Kannad, but apparently it Parashuram is used in that language.

Let's see... if I redirect Porshuram, Parshuram and Parashuram to this disambiguation page, and put in the other entires, including the Bangladesh upazila and the Kannad film, will it be reasonable? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 14:18, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I am a Bengali too, so I understand your point about the "o" sound in Bangla. I just have one question - what is the pronunciation of the district name? Is it "Por-shoo-raam" or "paw-ro-shoo-ram"? Gamesmaster G-9 (talk) 23:10, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

"Pawr-shoo-raam" or something like it, the same as Rajshekhar Basu's pen-name. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 14:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I think this is what we should do - Each search term should go to the page which corresponds to that spelling, and all these pages will have a disambiguation hat leading to a single page, which will combine all the spellings. I think it should be:

Parshuram, Parsuram - district Parashuram, Parasuram - writer Parashurama, Parasurama - deity

And a single page Parashurama (disambig).

Gamesmaster G-9 (talk) 22:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, no! If disambiguation pages start needing disambiguation than probably the sche,e is quite defeated. This looks mighty complicated. The short easy way would be to have one disambiguation page (i.e. this one), redirect all the alternative spellings to that page, and put down the varying spelling on that page. Allow me to give it a go, if you don't mind. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Done. See if you like it. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

What you did is fine, but its incomplete. According to WP:DISAMBIG, we should minimise the number of incoming links to disambiguation pages. So Parshuram should not redirect to this page. Instead, it should redirect to the article that the searcher was MOST LIKELY looking for (this will be a subjective decision). Then, that article will have a hat redirecting to this page. The reason why this is difficult, is that we need to do this for every possible spelling of the word - this includes Parashurama, Parashuram, Parshuram, Parsuram, Parsurama, Parasurama, Porshuram, Porsuram, and any other combination that is used. Gamesmaster G-9 (talk) 16:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Yippee! A consensus, removing one more thorn in the design. Thanks and cheers. And, oh, I might just drop in at times to discuss disambigs (other disambigs that is) with you, if you don't mind. Rock on. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure :) Gamesmaster G-9 (talk) 19:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)