Talk:Pa Sheehy

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Guliolopez in topic Merge

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Edits amended to comply with references "Removed [A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject] because I have fixed the issue;" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a01:4b00:ea43:f900:c26:6fd9:a96f:4a88 (talkcontribs) 14:59, 10 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi. Thanks. Note:
  • WP:SIGN - If an editor leaves a talk-page message, they should consider signing it.
  • WP:EWLO - If an editor has a user/editor profile, they should consider using it.
  • WP:COI - If an editor has a connection (paid or otherwise) with a subject/subjects, they should consider disclosing it. (A COI issue is not "fixed" by removing errors and misrepresentations in content. A COI issue is "fixed" via WP:DCOI.)
Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 15:07, 10 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Merge edit

I propose to merge this article to Walking on Cars#Split and later projects. I suggest this because, to my view, the subject has limited/no notability independent of the main topic (the band he is/was a member of) and that it is otherwise too soon for the subject to be covered by a separate article.

In terms of the former, and per WP:MUSICOUTCOMES and WP:SINGER, pretty much ALL of the sources refer to the subject in the context of his former band. And hence confirm that notability is intrinsically tied.

In terms of the latter, and per WP:TOOSOON and WP:MUSICBIO, pretty much ALL we are saying is that the subject has released one/two singles, and is planning to release an EP in the future. That's it. The rest of the content relates to the subject's former band. If the subject was a solo artist (with no "inherited" notability from former band), this article would be a candidate for speedy or AfD. (In that independent notability wouldn't be established at all).

Anyway, happy to hear other thoughts, but I'm otherwise proposing to merge/redirect this title to Walking on Cars#Split and later projects soon. Guliolopez (talk) 11:33, 18 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

  • Oppose. Sheehy has now had a solo top 10 on the Irish Albums Chart, with his EP debuting at number 9 this week. I'm sure there are more sources to come after this, but for that alone I'm opposed to a merge. Ss112 14:32, 1 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Comment. While I've removed the "merge" proposal/tag, I still think it's a little WP:TOOSOON. The refs which support the charting of the EP (number 9 for one week) refer to the subject here in the context of the band ("former Walking On Cars frontman"). However, absent support for a change, I've removed the tag (I don't like leaving those things in place indefinitely). Will keep on watchlist though. Not least given COI concerns. Guliolopez (talk) 18:12, 3 November 2021 (UTC)Reply