Talk:Otqışlaq

Requested move 15 November 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move, what usually is needed is to check which name is more common in English-language sources per WP:UE. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 18:17, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

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Amirallar → Əmirallar – Use official name per norm. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 18:16, 15 November 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. SITH (talk) 21:12, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:58, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

• @CuriousGolden and BarrelProof: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 00:00, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• As in what sources? What "norm"? The only source cited in the article uses Amirallar. — BarrelProof (talk) 23:32, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
• The village's name currently is a transliteration. The official name in Azerbaijani language is Əmirallar. You can see that through the azwiki's page as well. And by "norm", I was referring to almost all village articles in Azerbaijan using the official name, rather than a transliterated one. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 05:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Support Category:Stub-Class_Azerbaijan_articles?from=Ea per what we normally do. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:38, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:UE and WP:COMMONNAME. The proposed name is untypeable and unpronounceable by most English speakers. Station1 (talk) 02:50, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
  • So is literally almost every small village article in Azerbaijan. See villages of Agdam district, villages of Kalbajar District, villages of Fuzuli district and so on.. We usually don't transliterate names of small villages.— CuriousGolden (T·C) 04:57, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

    @CuriousGolden: I agree that based on the guidelines, this should be moved. But Station1 does have a point. How would English-speakers, the majority of whom have standard QWERTY keyboards, search up towns containing "Ə"? Is it standard to redirect with "A" in place of "Ə"?  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 20:38, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

@Bait30: That's why I usually include a transliteration of the name in the lead with {{transl|az|}} template. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 06:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Why then, in this case, did you remove the transliteration from the lead? Station1 (talk) 09:32, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

I replaced the first word with the official name as I didn't expect the move request to be put under a {{Request move}} in the talk page as I request such moves quite frequently and they get accepted immediately per Wikipedia Policy. I've added the transliteration now. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 12:31, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

@CuriousGolden: I wouldn't worry too much, any Admin experienced with RM closes will (a) be capable of looking at the category, and (b) read what WP:UE and WP:COMMONNAME actually say. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:34, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose The first letter of the proposed title will clearly cause problems. Just keep the romanized transliteration. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 07:26, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.