Talk:On the Issues

Notability discussion

Thargor Orlando suggests that this page does not meet "general notability guidelines." I am an editor at OnTheIssues, so obviously I think it does meet those guidelines, but this is the place for a discussion. I would welcome hearing specifically what criteria Thargor Orlando thinks makes OnTheIssues non-notable. I have read the general guidelines and will add some press references, since that would seem called for, and perhaps some history of the organization. I would welcome hearing what else would improve this Wikipedia page. JesseAlanGordon (talk) 18:59, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Notes

Briefly reading their web page, holy hell, left leaning. I'll add that though they are nonpartisan (Using the definition of not overtly supporting a political party), they do lean left. 99.250.240.103 (talk) 02:53, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

You need to cite evidence for that claim, either directly from the site itself or its owners, or from third-party reliable sources, and then include that in the article as a reference. --Jatkins ^{(talk - contribs)} 13:38, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Responding to "holy hell" above: Hi, I'm one of the OnTheIssues editors, so I'll cite some counter-evidence, as Jatkins suggests. First, the basis of the website is the VoteMatch quiz (I'll be adding a paragraph about that next weekend for the Notability discussion) -- that is based on a Libertarian Party favorite called the Nolan Chart. Unlike the Nolan Chart, which is arranged as a [[push poll] to promote libertarianism, we arrange VoteMatch so that conservatives and liberals have the same number of "yes" answers. Furthermore, if you look at who OnTheIssues covers, it scrupulously includes liberals, conservatives, libertarians, greens, and far more right-leaning AND left-leaning candidates than the mainstream press does. FYI, I get incoming email accusing OnTheIssues of being left-leaning about as often as an accusation of being right-leaning. My response is always to challenge the write to find better coverage of right-leaning candidates on Fox News, or to find better coverage of left-leaning candidates on CNN -- the mainstream media on BOTH sides cover their OWN candidates' issue stances less than OnTheIssues does! If that's "leaning", then I guess OnTheIssues leans -- but I'd call it "good journalism!" JesseAlanGordon (talk) 23:08, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Name

Please note that their name has a capital "T" for "The", see their website. Thanks, --Funandtrvl (talk) 23:19, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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On The Issues → On the Issues – Restore to standard English capitalization per both WP:MOSCAPS and WP:MOSTM: This page in a nutshell: Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, regardless of the preference of trademark owners. Tassedethe (talk) 16:38, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

• Support; should be non-controversial. Powers ^T 20:48, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
• Dispute, either the name should be "On The Issues" or "OnTheIssues" per its website. It is a proper name and the name of a company, and since there is another similarly named company/magazine, the title should be used for disambig purposes. Please see: WP:NCCORP..."In some cases, leading articles (usually The) and suffixes (such as Company, International, Group, and so forth) are an integral part of the company name and should be included as specified by the company, especially when necessary for disambiguation." --Funandtrvl (talk) 21:12, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
  • NCCORP is talking about leading articles, not interior articles. It's talking about cases like The Lego Group. Powers ^T 12:50, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose. This is a proper name, and the initial caps formatting should be kept. Binksternet (talk) 02:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
  • That conflicts with our manual of style and article naming guidelines. Powers ^T 12:49, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
    • I would be a lot more convinced if you could point to the exact quote from those guidelines, and if the quote was relevant. I have looked at the guidelines and they support the word the capitalized in a trademark, as in a proper name. At Wikipedia:MOSCAPS#Trademarks it says, "follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules for proper nouns", and at Wikipedia:MOSTM#General_rules it says, "Capitalize trademarks, as with proper names." At Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies), the situation specific to this case is not mentioned, but the guideline does allow the word the to be capitalized in an organization's name. Binksternet (talk) 15:52, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
      • The "... standard English text formatting and capitalization rules for proper nouns" means that words such as "the", "and" "of" etc. are lower case. E.g. it is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland not The United Kingdom Of Great Britain And Northern Ireland, or United Kingdom of the Netherlands not United Kingdom Of The Netherlands. Tassedethe (talk) 16:48, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
  • BTW, this isn't the proper name. Per the website and some quick news searches, the whole title is only ever one word. This article definitely needs to be moved, but possibly to OnTheIssues.org (the website and the company name). -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:05, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
• Support (even speedily) per WP:MOSCAPS. "Capitalize trademarks, as with proper names" would still yield "On the Issues" (just like other proper names Peter the Great or Bob the Builder or Democratic Republic of the Congo). The guideline "allows" (recognizes that it's correct) to capitalize "The" at the beginning of an organization's name ("leading articles"), but not here -- there isn't a leading article. See also On the Water (magazine), Word on the Street, Top of the Pops (magazine), Up the Academy, etc. -- JHunterJ (talk) 19:46, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
• Support per User:JHunterJ.--ukexpat (talk) 15:32, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
• Support per MOS:CAPS. Agree with the comments by Tassedethe, Powers and JHunterJ. Jenks24 (talk) 04:13, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.