Talk:Oberkommando der Luftwaffe

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Herostratus in topic This is confusing

Generalstab der Luftwaffe edit

The Oberkommando der Luftwaffe is not the same as the Generalstab der Luftwaffe. The latter was only a part of it, and there has been a time where there was a Generalstab der Luftwaffe without an Oberkommando der Luftwaffe. Nevertheless, I'll try to add some details about the Generalstab der Luftwaffe to this article, just to avoid another article and at the same time enhance this one. (I have flags as one of my hobbies but this article should definitely carry more information than just flags.) Problem is that I have some material but nearly no time. Nevertheless, I'll see what I can do. One of the special tasks of the Generalstab der Luftwaffe was map-making. I am studying this topic, see my results to-date at http://milgeolw.vexilli.net (in German language, except one list) -- Wschroedter (talk) 20:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

-Revision required-

The following sentence is in dire need of revision (poorly constructed, hard to get the meaning): "The organization of this organization was from the peacetime period dating prior to involvement in Spanish Civil War." Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.120.161.6 (talk) 12:15, 16 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

This is confusing edit

The "Organization" section begins with this:

To gear for the European war, Luftwaffe needed a high command equivalent to Army (Oberkommando des Heeres OKH) or Navy (Oberkommando der Marine OKM). Hence In 1939, the Luftwaffe was again reorganized. The credit for the formation of a true Air Force High Command (German: Oberkommando Der Luftwaffe OKL) goes to Colonel General Günther Korten commander of Air Fleet 1 (German: Luftflotte 1) and his Chief of Operations General der Flieger Karl Koller. They both campaigned to carve out a command out of Goring's all compassing Reich Air ministry. The intent was to put Luftwaffe on a true wartime footing, by grouping all the essential military parts of the RLM into a single command. Thus on 5 February 1944, Air Force Command (German: Oberkommando Der Luftwaffe OKL) was created.

5 February 1944 was much nearer the end of the war than the beginning and the Luftwaffe was on the ropes, so it makes little sense to consider this a key reorganization to prepare for the war. Also earlier in the article it says "In early 1937, Göring announced reorganization of the Reich Air Ministry into Military and civilian branches. The military branch was to be led by the Oberkommando der Luftwaffe". And at the end of the end of the article it lists Chiefs of OKL and Chiefs of the OKL General Staff as dating from 1935. So this is pretty confusing. The February 5 1944 date appears to be real, per Organization of the Luftwaffe (1933–45), but it's not clear in this article or that what happened. I'd fix this but I flat-out cannot understand what the deal was. Little help here? Herostratus (talk) 02:25, 19 March 2014 (UTC)Reply