Talk:Nokia tune

Status as sound trademark

Nokia's claim to the tune may be found in the user's manual for any Nokia phone ("Nokia tune is a soundmark of Nokia Corporation."). I haven't come across any discussion of it, and since I'm no expert on copyright law I can't say whether the claim may be legitimate, but it does seem odd as Tarrega's works are in the public domain. (Aren't they? I imagine that's why they used it in the first place.) I suppose I'll write Nokia and ask. Rallette 12:38, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Trademark law is different to copyright law. The audio is still public domain, so you can perform it, distribute, sell it etc. but it's trademark status means you can't use it to identify your company. ed g2s • talk 18:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

The explanation above is interesting. I believe it would be good to point it out in the article 90.41.241.30 (talk) 18:15, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

USPTO and OHIM (EU) have accepted the tune as a sound trademark. Jniemi (talk) 13:41, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

The fourth note in the notation of the tune is wrong. It should be an A, not a G#

No, it's right as it is. 213.107.97.72 15:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

But the the audio file is not right, at least it is not the notes shown in the score. In the second measure the first two notes played are e and c# and not c# and b --134.106.52.191 (talk) 12:37, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

The audio is correct. It is a C#. --The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 01:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Tarrega must be rolling in his grave over the commercialization of his masterpiece to the point of being annoying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.215.194.201 (talk) 03:42, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

The the audio file is not right! --Reolon (talk) 15:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Care to elaborate? --The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 21:49, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

It certainly isn't right, but only one note is wrong. The written C#, first note of bar 2, is played on the audio file as a D natural. JohnB57 (talk) 21:40, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

The notation is OK, the audio file is not. I also think of the 1st note of the bar 2. You can compare with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIh_ZQIJdcg . The lilypond source for the notation is incomplete, I can't try to generate the MIDI file. Ofaurax (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:10, 19 July 2010 (UTC).

So, four years on, is the audio file correct? Is the notation correct? Do they match? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 16:35, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Why doesn't Gran Vals have its own page proper with Nokia's usage as a ringtone listed as a "reference in popular culture" or the like? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.135.182 (talk) 01:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Kill Bill Info

Does this piece of information refer to her identifying Sophie whilst in the toilet in the first film? If so, it's incorrect, as her ringtone is 'Auld Lang Syne', not this tune. FullyClothedMike (talk) 16:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Last note

The article claims that the last a¹ note is played 2 octaves lower below in the original guitar composition. In the score linked in the article one can notice "ar" over the note, which means harmonic. It's not specified which harmonic to play, but here you have it played by David Rusell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSQzUx3QW2Y&feature=related who playes e¹ note (7th fret harmonic on the A string). I guess he does it right...

Another score shows a diamond shaped note on the A two ledger lines below the stave. Underneath the note it says "harm" (meaning "play a harmonic") and above the note it says "VII" (meaning "use the 7th fret"). According to http://douglasniedt.com that harmonic will sound an octave above the written note. So, neither the high A shown in the musical notation in this article, nor the claim of "two octaves lower" matches the original composition. The original pitch is between the two, that is the A in the middle of the stave. However, the notation in this article does match the Nokia tune which (incorrectly) sounds an octave higher than Francisco Tarrega's original. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.28.191.150 (talk) 22:34, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

You are right, in the original, a harmonic is played on the 7th fret of the A string, which produces an E. The Nokia tune ends on an A. I changed the article accordingly. --Kobraton (talk) 10:21, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

stub?

Removed "music-stub" tag. As this is not really about music, it's not a music stub. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.159.77.166 (talk) 11:47, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Explain, it's about a ringtone which is a form of music... --Lumia930uploader (talk) 08:45, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

"just one of the normal ringtones"

The article currently claims "The Nokia Tune first appeared on the Nokia 2110 released in 1994, under the name ringtone Type 7, showing that it was just one of the normal ringtones."

I had a 2110 at one stage and IIRC the vast majority of the ringtones on it were some variant of "phone ringing". I think (though i'm not positive) that the "nokia tune" was at the end of the list and the only "musical" ringtone on the phone. Plugwash (talk) 03:30, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

The last phone to use the 2004 and 2002 Nokia tunes

The last phone to use the 2004 Nokia tune would be the Nokia 7100 Supernova, released in 2009 (EU version). The third-world version of the 7100 was the last one to use the 2002 Nokia tune. -Anon, 26th October 2018.

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