Talk:Nicole Kidman discography
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Merge back? edit
Is there any special reason this page should exist? I fail to see why this can't be covered in the main article. As far as I can see, there's been no discussion on Talk:Nicole Kidman about splitting the article. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:53, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- I am not sure why it was split. It also seems that Kidman is inaccurately potrayed as a recording artist, when, in fact, she has only appeared on a couple of soundtracks and as guest on a Robbie Williams album 13 years ago. Nymf (talk) 05:43, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Her main article clearly states she is an "actress, singer and film producer". Besides, on none of the singles or other songs Kidman was credited as a featured but main artist as a matter of fact. Anyway, I am not sure myself where do you get your statement "she is inaccurately potrayed (either or only) as a recording artist", Nymf? Her discography article, fully sourced and referenced byt the way, reads that "Kidman, primarily known in the field of acting, entered the music industry..." Can you see that? Her latest music release is not dated 13 years ago, maybe you should have a harder look first. MiewEN (talk) 06:06, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- "Come What May" is not a song written for or by Nicole Kidman as an artist. It is a song written for a movie which she was a part of, hence sung on. In that sense it is not her debut single, but rather the first single that she performed vocals for. This goes on. The tone of the whole article is that Nicole Kidman has a career as a musical artist, which is wrong. For the record, I do not support calling her a singer in the first sentence of the lead in the main article either. Nymf (talk) 15:50, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Well, in that case, we could not call even e.g. musical singers as being singers as a matter of fact. Kidman has demonstrably released physical releases of her recordings, and either you consider it for good or wrong, I do not support your statement at the first place. MiewEN (talk) 16:29, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- There is a big difference in being promoted, marketed and working as a musical artist, compared to singing on a soundtrack or performing guest vocals on a song. Has Nicole Kidman been on any tours? See Juliette Lewis for the difference. Do you mind if I bring this to RfC? Nymf (talk) 16:55, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- As said earlier, she has been credited as the main artist on all her singles, not "guest vocals" performer. Either way, and looking at her discography, in fact she has been promoted, marketed and worked as a musical artist by now a number of times, regardless of touring which is optional, not obligatory for any singer to my knowledge. And that is why I have created her eponymous category in advance as I was aware of her musical background. I do not really care about that much though, I cannot agree with merging her discographic article as she has a solid list of available recordings on the market. You go and bring it wherewhere it takes you, Nymph. As for Lewis, sorry, don't really know the woman. MiewEN (talk) 17:43, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm for merging this one. Judging from the article, her "spoken word album" is an audiobook and all of her "singles" are either from the soundtracks of her films or celebrity appearances on other artists' songs (Jon Lovitz and Rupert Everett also appeared on that Robbie Williams album). She has released no albums of her own material and does not appear to have toured significantly, if at all. Even by Wikipedia's standards, that's not even close to a notable singing career. By contrast, the aforementioned Juliette Lewis was the lead singer of a rock band for six years before releasing a solo album. Even much more questionable artists like William Shatner and David Hasselhoff still had multiple albums and live performances that got attention in one country or another. Nicole Kidman is just an actress who sometimes sings.--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 01:51, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- As said earlier, she has been credited as the main artist on all her singles, not "guest vocals" performer. Either way, and looking at her discography, in fact she has been promoted, marketed and worked as a musical artist by now a number of times, regardless of touring which is optional, not obligatory for any singer to my knowledge. And that is why I have created her eponymous category in advance as I was aware of her musical background. I do not really care about that much though, I cannot agree with merging her discographic article as she has a solid list of available recordings on the market. You go and bring it wherewhere it takes you, Nymph. As for Lewis, sorry, don't really know the woman. MiewEN (talk) 17:43, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- There is a big difference in being promoted, marketed and working as a musical artist, compared to singing on a soundtrack or performing guest vocals on a song. Has Nicole Kidman been on any tours? See Juliette Lewis for the difference. Do you mind if I bring this to RfC? Nymf (talk) 16:55, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Well, in that case, we could not call even e.g. musical singers as being singers as a matter of fact. Kidman has demonstrably released physical releases of her recordings, and either you consider it for good or wrong, I do not support your statement at the first place. MiewEN (talk) 16:29, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- "Come What May" is not a song written for or by Nicole Kidman as an artist. It is a song written for a movie which she was a part of, hence sung on. In that sense it is not her debut single, but rather the first single that she performed vocals for. This goes on. The tone of the whole article is that Nicole Kidman has a career as a musical artist, which is wrong. For the record, I do not support calling her a singer in the first sentence of the lead in the main article either. Nymf (talk) 15:50, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Her main article clearly states she is an "actress, singer and film producer". Besides, on none of the singles or other songs Kidman was credited as a featured but main artist as a matter of fact. Anyway, I am not sure myself where do you get your statement "she is inaccurately potrayed (either or only) as a recording artist", Nymf? Her discography article, fully sourced and referenced byt the way, reads that "Kidman, primarily known in the field of acting, entered the music industry..." Can you see that? Her latest music release is not dated 13 years ago, maybe you should have a harder look first. MiewEN (talk) 06:06, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
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