Talk:Monitoring (medicine)

Move to Monitoring (medicine)

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:15, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

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Monitoring medicine → Monitoring (medicine) – This article should describe monitoring in the context of medicine, and be named accordingly (rather than appearing to deal with some kind of medical specialty of "monitoring medicine" that only deals with monitoring, in which case it should rather focus on academic education and other professional aspects). Mikael Häggström (talk) 16:06, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

• Support. This seemed like such an obvious request that I boldly closed and moved. However, that move was reverted. Fine, let's have a discussion. Whoever opposes the move, and supports the current title, please explain it. --Born2cycle (talk) 22:53, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
• Comment. Is this even a topic actually covered in reliable sources? --Born2cycle (talk) 23:53, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Monitoring in medicine is not "Monitoring medicine"

Please read the article. Thanks to technology, medicine is now transforing itself with new names such as smart medince, integrative medicine, Self tailored medicine, etc. "Monitoring medince" is a new kind of medicine that uses advanced biosensors and continues monitoring of healty people as a preventive mechanism of avioding getting sick. Togheter with "self-tailored medince" and " preventive medince" it's a total shift in thinking, you won't go to medical care when somting is aching or if there are symptoms, "monitoring medince" is a new way of avoiding clinical problems long before they are apear, maybe years. Medical monitor is just a very old tool for ECG and Monitoring (medicine) only contains a simple blood tests. "Monitoring medince" is a new term like "smart medince" and Self tailored medicine. יוסי קמחי (talk) 00:21, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

That's all well and good, but new terms aren't automatically encyclopedic. Does it meet the general notability guideline? To support an article about a particular term or concept we must cite what reliable secondary sources, such as books and papers, say about the term or concept, not books and papers that use the term. Jesanj (talk) 19:59, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Jesanj. The article needs to be cited with medically reliable sources, and ones that reflect the claims in the article. For the definition of "monitoring medicine", for example, it appears that the reference states it in the context of "monitoring medicine intake", which I interpret as "the monitoring of medicine intake" rather than "intake in the field of monitoring medicine". Mikael Häggström (talk) 04:15, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

After the move

After the move, this page has gone downhill from what I think was a historic version that looked like this: [1] We'll need to merge (or replace) the current version with one based off of that one, in my opinion. There is too much unencyclopedic stuff leftover in this version. Jesanj (talk) 18:12, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

I agree, so I merged that into this article. I think the current layout is appropriate, with what appears to be "future techniques for monitoring" belonging to a separate section with fitting title. There is still a lot of cleaning up to do, but at least the article is not based on a neologism that lacks reflection in scientific literature. Mikael Häggström (talk) 04:47, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Good work, I tagged the needy section for a cleanup. Jesanj (talk) 04:59, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Merge Medical monitor to Monitoring (medicine)

Neither the article Medical monitor nor Monitoring (medicine) is large enough to justify having separate articles, and the scope is essentially the same, with the only difference being that one is the instrument and the other is the procedure. Mikael Häggström (talk) 00:11, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I've done the merge now, as well as redirected the main entries in "what links here" for the Medical monitor article. I may have a second look at "what links here" once the system has refreshed all the entries that were in Template:Anesthesia. Mikael Häggström (talk) 22:54, 21 July 2012 (UTC)