Talk:Matres and Matronae

Merger

agree that Matres and Deae Matres should be merged; the DEAE prefix simply being the dative plural of the word goddess. --Nantonos 11:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Move from Matres to Matronae?

What about a move to Matronae? I've been doing some poking around through Jufer and Luginbühl's Repertoire des dieux gaulois lately, and they document many more inscriptions to the Matronae than to the Matres... QuartierLatin1968 16:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Support: If the sources back it, it works for me. PS: Please do not put images in your signature; this is strongly discouraged. As opposed to CSS futzing like my sig, which is only slightly discouraged. Heh. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Re signature: As you can see, I have both complied and modernized during the interim. ;-) Q·L·1968 ☿ 10:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Page moved to Matres and Matronae—a manœuvre some eight years overdue, I see. Q·L·1968 ☿ 17:07, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

However, we still need to include Matres, as an alternative spelling the lead (and with a source), which is well attested in sources, both secondary and primary; it was the predominant spelling in Gaul, from what I've seen so far.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  09:01, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Nutrices Augustae and change to Matronae

Nutrices Augustae means "August Nurses", not "Nurses of Augustus". My knowledge of Latin goes that far... "Nurses of Augustus" would be something like Nutrices Augusti.

About a change to Matronae: I got here through Matres, while looking into the corresponding divinities of the Iberian Peninsula, where, as far as I know, the name Matronae is rarely if ever used. It never would have occurred to me to check for Matronae, a name that probably implies main-stream, romanized celticity. And Matres, after all, simply means "Mothers": what's more simple than that? ... but what do I know?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.13.37.9 (talk • contribs)

You are completely right concerning the Latin – I'll change it in a moment. As for the move, it's true, there are more Matronae in some regions and more Matres in others; in either case, we'd leave a redirect from the other name... Q·L·1968 ☿ 10:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletions

This article has recently come under attack by an editor who is not shy about removing sourced text, where it doesn't suit some pre-conceived ideas ofMatres being solely "Germanic" or "Celtic", thoughtlessly losing an illustration of an ancient representation in the process. The article needs closer adult supervision.--Wetman (talk) 23:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Are you serious? First of all, I'm responsible for nearly everything on this article that is sourced. Some "attack". Secondly, I was gutting unreferenced material and unclear claims, which do not help. Before you come ranting to the talk page about "attack"s and need of "adult supervision," I suggest you take a closer look. Firstly, I might note that you've moved some references around to the end of some paragraphs. The image was removed because there was no room—obviously. Lindow says nothing about Macbeth or the Fates. You are misattributing sources and it's not helping. :bloodofox: (talk) 00:37, 5 September 2009 (UTC)