Talk:Manga iconography

Not only not Verifiable, it's wrong

"A red cheek denotes embarrassment or blushing."

1. Back in the Manga article, it says that manga is usually printed in black & white. And so it is, and has been for a long time in Japan, and, more recently, in the United States and Europe. So how do we have a RED cheek?

2. "Red" cheeks are often depicted by cross-hatching, shading, or the use of screen tones. They MIGHT denote embarassment or blushing but they can also denote sexual arousal or fury.

I think I might tackle more of this page as time permits. For example, there are NO citations for anything at all.

Timothy Perper 20:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if I sounded peeved up there, but this is the kind of careless writing that I truly don't like... Timothy Perper 23:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Merge

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result was merge sweat drop into Manga iconography. Article face fault was deleted. -- David Bailey (talk) 13:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

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Propose merge of face fault and sweat drop into this article. KyuuA4 (talk) 18:35, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

• Yes. Timothy Perper (talk) 20:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

• face fault is far too long to talk about a merge. sweat drop feels fine as it is. -- Cat ^chi? 23:48, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

• Merge sweatdrop in there. Face Fault is fine as it is, and is very informative. ZeroGiga (Contact) 16:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

• Support. I think both face fault and sweat drop should be merged into this article. The manga visual style needs to be discussed as a whole, not as separate entities. Many illustrators will use multiple sets of visual clues (icons) when drawing scenes, even on the same panel (see Genshiken and Love Hina manga as examples). David Bailey (talk) 11:41, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

• Support, at least for sweat drop. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 13:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

• Comment, Face Fault has recently been deleted, as the consensus was it was mostly original unreferenced research. Only sweat drop now remains and this could easily be merged into this article. David Bailey (talk) 19:08, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

USA-centric

How is the article USA-centric? It deals with another comics culture? 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 15:11, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

It isn't, so I've removed this flag. David Bailey (talk) 13:56, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

References and citations

We need to find examples from one or more manga comic-strip(s) to use for each item listed on the page. They should be correctly referenced as per the {cite book} template. David Bailey (talk) 14:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Facial Features

"Osamu Tezuka started drawing them in this way in his manga Astro Boy, which led to the style of Disney and Betty Boop cartoons from the United States."

Shouldn't this read "which was inspired by the style of Disney"? Both Disney and Betty Boop were around long before Osamu Tezuka made Astro Boy.

Alexanderkominek (talk) 05:15, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Source

FYI: https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0378216615003318 (If nobody else ends up using this to shore up this very under-referenced article, I will at some point.) Sandtalon (talk) 02:42, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Hair Color Section

Should this section be removed? Not only is it about anime (rather than manga), but the one source the section uses seems extremely under researched. I tried searching for some better sources, but everything I have read has different interpretations regarding the "symbolism" of hair color in anime. Gretabird (talk) 21:44, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

I agree it should be removed. I can also speak Japanese and couldn't find any other sources that gave a list resembling this one. BanjoCollie (talk) 16:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Remove the 'Hair color' section

• What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):

The section on the meaning of hair color should be removed. Specifically this is lines 75 - 90 in the HTML source.

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====Hair color==== <table class="box-More_citations_needed_section plainlinks metadata ambox ambox-content ambox-Refimprove" role="presentation"><tr><td class="mbox-image"><div class="mbox-image-div">[[File:Question book-new.svg|50x40px|alt=]]</div></td><td class="mbox-text"><div class="mbox-text-span">This section '''needs additional citations for [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verification]]'''.<span class="hide-when-compact"> Please help [[Special:Edit/Talk:Manga iconography|improve this article]] by [[Help:Referencing for beginners|adding citations to reliable sources]] in this section. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed.</span> <span class='date-container'><i>(<span class='date'>June 2022</span>)</i></span><span class="hide-when-compact"><i> (<small>[[Help:Maintenance template removal|Learn how and when to remove this message]]</small>)</i></span></div></td></tr></table> Hair color of anime characters is not randomly selected. In some cases its color can express significant elements of that character's personality, based on color symbolism in Japan. * '''Black''': Power, evil, emptiness, sadness, depression, mystery, sophistication, intimidation, death * '''Blond(e)''': Joy, wealth, heaven, childlike, courage, foreigner * '''Blue''': Patience, peace, calmness, cold, stability, dependability, loyalty * '''Brown''': Comfort, simplicity, endurance * '''Green''': Fortune, envy, harmony, life, vigor, tranquility * '''Orange''': Energy, balance, enthusiasm, warmth, attention seeking * '''Pink''': Femininity, purity, child-like, love, kindness * '''Purple''': Royalty, wisdom, spirituality * '''Red''': Passion, aggression, energy, love (basically strong emotions) * '''Silver/Grey''': Reliability, intelligence, maturity, stoicism, boredom * '''White''': Fear, simplicity, innocence, humility, apathy, heaven (can also mean death)} Old text.

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• Why it should be changed:

The only source cited is under-researched and subjective, multiple users could not find better sources.

BanjoCollie (talk) 16:57, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Done! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

References