Talk:Mac Stanton

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I am going to be a little busy today but I will finish categorizing and linking this article when I return.

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Thank you for the information TransporterMan, I found it very helpful. I will be using some of your advice to make sure this article is written and submitted properly so as not to be deleted. TetraEleven (talk) 19:32, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Right now I'm currently reading all of the WikipediaHelp articles to see which is best for this article, however if anybody would like to give me some input on what you think is appropriate, it would be very much appreciated. TetraEleven (talk) 20:03, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Let me add another word of advice: Though it may not look like it on first blush, there are strict policies on what subjects and content can and cannot be included in Wikipedia. In very general terms, before a person, place, thing, organization, or idea can be included in Wikipedia it must have

• already been recognized
• as important or significant
• by objective, independent, and provable third party sources
• with a established reputation for fact-checking
• which are independent of both the subject of the article and of Wikipedia itself.

That's just a plain-English generalization of the actual rules to give you an idea of what's going on here, so don't rely on it but refer to the actual policies instead. (For a great analogy illustrating these concepts, see WP:SCRABBLE.) Without a working knowledge of Wikipedia policy it can be very frustrating to try to write an article that won't be deleted. I've tried several times to write a better introduction to editing than can be found at the Article Wizard and Your First Article and I can't. Don't be tempted to skip past sections of either one, they're full of solid gold information. Also, if you've not done so already, you need to read the Notability, Verifiability, No original research, What Wikipedia is not, and Conflict of interest policies from beginning to end. Good luck with your editing, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:23, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again TransporterMan. The article is in the incubator which I hope is acceptable for this article. TetraEleven (talk) 20:27, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Now In Article Incubator

I have moved the article into the Article Incubator, and it will remain here until it is properly finished, evaluated, and processed. Please post any comment you believe to be necessary. TetraEleven (talk) 20:25, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Recommendations

Mac Stanton

• good start. some minor things: citation number 3 should be placed inside the box, not after it; just make sure it's connected to the text. Also, it's bad form to have subheadings with no content, so I would removed the remixes section until you have something to put there. A "See also" section (maybe linking to the genre of music) would be a nice addition right above the references section, and if Marc Stanton has an official website, you can include it in an "External links" section underneath references.
• Expansion: expansion is always an excellent thing, and adding more research is the only way to get the "stub" status to go away. (the stub status is harmless, but irritating). If you can scrounge up some more third party references, that would be fantastic.
• Citation format - you're using a good template, except I would recommend you individually name each citation. This the format I personally use:

reference format

A piece of information from the first source.<ref name="sourceone"/>

A piece of information from the second source.<ref name="sourcetwo"/>

A second piece of information from the first source source.<ref name="sourceone"/>

== References ==
{{reflist| refs =

<ref name="sourceone">{{cite web|title=Mac Stanton Discography|url=http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mac+Stanton|work=Mac Stanton Discography|publisher=Discogs|accessdate=27 May 2011}}</ref>

<ref name="sourcetwo">{{cite web|last=Campbell|first=Joe|title=Mac Stanton is Feeling It Out (For You)|url=http://inyourspeakers.com/content/news/feeling-so-french-records-and-you-05162011|publisher=In Your Speakers|accessdate=27 May 2011}}</ref>

}}

It will look like this:

A piece of information from the first source.

A piece of information from the second source.

A second piece of information from the first source source.

References

Sloggerbum (talk) 23:12, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Assessment

Article incubation assessment

1. Does the article establish notability of the subject?

   A. It does not yet apparently meet the general notability guideline: I can find no mention of awards, sales figures, or critical commentary indicating an assertion of notability. Has the label won any awards? How many of each album was sold? For how much money? Has anyone written anything about the recordings saying that they are good? If the answer to any of these questions is "yes," then please include that information and mention it below. Thank you. Dualus (talk) 19:59, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

   B. It meets any relevant subject specific guideline:

2. Is it verifiable?

   A. It contains references to sources:

   B. There are inline citations of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. There is no original research:

3. Is it neutral?

   A. It is a fair representation without bias:

   B. It is written in a non-promotional manner:

4. It does not contain unverifiable speculation:
5. Pass, Fail or Hold for 7 days:

Suspend assessment for three months. Anyone who has not yet edited the article may re-assess at any time, and is encouraged to do so. Dualus (talk) 19:59, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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