Talk:MZ Skorpion

Latest comment: 13 years ago by Arrivisto in topic Sport tourer or roadster

Sport tourer or roadster

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This source calls the Skorpion Tour a Sport touring motorcycle: The Editors of Motorcyclist Magazine (2001). The Complete Idiot's Guide to Motorcycles (2nd ed.). Penguin. p. 349. ISBN 9780028642581. Retrieved 2011-08-21. {{cite book}}: |author1= has generic name (help); |first2= missing |last2= (help)

There are no sources that call it a "roadster" and roadster is not a recognized type of motorcycle. Linking to the article Roadster is no help at all; that's a type of car. Changing Roadster to say whatever you want it to say it not ok either. Please cite a source. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 22:32, 21 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

American Motorcyclist from 1960 defines "roadster", strictly for purposes of competition rules, as equivalent to the modern term street legal, specifically differentiated from their word "sportsman", which was modified stock and not necessarily street legal. Triumph has a version of the Rocket III cruiser which they call a Roadster, meaning, "Blacked out. Blinged up. Streetfighting cruiser."

Which means nothing as far as I'm concerned. Streetfighting cruiser? Is that the same as a power cruiser like the Yamaha V-Max? Is the Ducati Diavel a "streetfighting cruiser" too? I think this is one of those cases where the marketing department is just throwing words around with no regard to what they mean; it is babble that just sounds cool to somebody's ear.

Can Am calls the Spyder 3 wheeler a "roadster" too, and it has no characteristics in common with the Triupmh Rocket III, nor the MZ Skorpion, as far as I can tell. Although it does kind of remind you of a roadster car, so maybe that makes sense. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 23:11, 21 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

*sigh* OK, I mixed up the Traveller and the Tour. On p. 349, the Traveller is called a sport touring bike. On page 350 (not available in Google preview but in the hard copy book), the Skorpion Tour is described as being "in the same market segment as Buell's innovative Blast!" In other words, the Tour is a Standard. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 00:07, 22 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Roadster is a name applied by a manufacturer to convey an image. It is not a type of bike. Simple. --Biker Biker (talk) 06:33, 22 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Writing "Simple" (or "Simples") does not convince. I refer you to Roadsters Arrivisto (talk) 12:38, 19 September 2011 (UTC)Reply