Talk:List of weapons in the American Civil War

What do you ppl

Mean by "mounted artillery?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.213.22.172 (talk) 16:44, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Scope?

This article seems to be making little progress. What is the proposed scope? Is it just infantry weapons or all weapons (artillery, gunboats, torpedoes, etc.)? If the former, consider renaming it Infantry weapons of the American Civil War; if the latter, you should probably recognize that there are already many articles on many types of weapons and it would be more appropriate to rename this List of weapons in the American Civil War, making it a list with brief descriptions and pointers to existing articles. Hal Jespersen 19:37, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Someone keeps damaging this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.83.9.118 (talk) 19:42, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Noted

My original intent on making this page was to make information on American Civil War weapons a little easier to find, as I had a school project when I made it on this very subject. However, I followed your suggestion and, if given some free time, will add some links to other pages with a brief description. Signeon 01:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Ammunition

is "fudged up" a real type of ammunition? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.161.43.243 (talk) 18:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

Also, I don't think that a 220 LB ball could explode into "millions of fragments each about the size of your fist." It just seems like too great of a nmber. Otherwise great article.

24.17.82.87 21:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)Mark

Rifles?

Rifles were THE biggest development in the Civil War. What happened to them? See http://members.tripod.com/~ProlificPains/wpns.htm for a list of some. {Slash-|-Talk} 03:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Starr Rifle: We have a Starr flintlock rifle that was owned by my great grandfather in the 1860's. We would love more information on it. How and where can that type of information be found? James riley4 (talk) 16:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC) January 10, 2008

Major change

If this is a "list", it should probably look like the articles in List of World War II weapons, or for that matter anything in List of weapons. An article like Weapons of the American Civil War would be more appropriate for the paragraphs written here. Joshdboz (talk) 15:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree. momoricks (make my day) 05:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

This article started as American Civil War Weapons and was moved/redirected to this list name. Likewise, Weapons in the American Civil War also redirects here.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 18:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Joke

I think this is a joke. Ash Ketchum is a fictional character from the Pokemon world. Could someone please confirm and correct. Thanks.

They also used Rains and Adams grenades, which were similar to the ash Ketchum in appearance and mechanism.[10]

60.52.5.238 (talk) Bankrobber70 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.52.5.238 (talk) 14:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't y'all know anything? Ash Ketchum is the grandson of the guy who invented the Ketchum grenade —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.251.159 (talk) 19:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.97.108.74 (talk) 22:19, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Neccessary?

This article needs to be re-written and provided with accurate sources. There are a few historical inaccuracies and misstatements. I started to edit the page, but then came to the conclusion that it would be better if the page were deleted, there are already numerous articles and lists that provide a more complete listing, as well as more detailed information, concerning American Civil War weapons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JTGlackin (talk • contribs) 21:30, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Semi protect this page

This page has been heavily vandalised. Could the admins give it semi-protected status to stop the idiots adding offensive and childish words? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.251.159 (talk) 16:50, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Introduction Image - remove

Please remove the introduction image - nobody in their right mind sticks a knife into a block of wood. It is nearly guaranteed to damage the point. It is a dangerous practice that should not be displayed in an image on Wikipedia unless it is a page about unsafe knife handling practices; think of images with gangsters holding their gun sideways to shoot, should that be the opening image for the handgun page? 128.12.219.153 (talk) 13:44, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Its hardly the focus of the image and a pretty nit-picky reason to suggest its removal. Considering that subject matter related and royalty free photos are hard to come by, please find a better image and replace it if you feel so strongly on the subject. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 23:10, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Merge cancel

I've reviewed both articles (this one and Rifles in the American Civil War) and although there is overlap, each appears to have its own merits. The List has a nicely presented chart accompanied by ancillary information. Whereas this article goes into more detail than a List article would typically contain. Furthermore, there are not independent articles for each rifle mentioned which justifies a separate article for those interested in or by the subject. For these reasons I am removing the three year old template. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 21:19, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

a notice

the so called Mills machine gun and Ager machine gun are exactly the same machine gun but with a different name, it wasn't Mills invention but Ager, Mills was a representative of the machine gun and it is called Ager and not Agar according to: http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/MG/I/MG-2.html

"....a volley gun similar to the French mitrailleuse." the De Reffye mitrailleuse of 1865 wasn't a volley gun but a machine gun — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:580:F172:5800:9404:EDD0:C0D6:A4CD (talk) 17:07, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

how about an addition

they used air balloons for reconnaissance, submarines and airships — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:7C04:8E00:1C59:48DF:C3FC:A508 (talk) 20:36, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Gentlemen. The Nazis field-tested ATGMs in 1944 and gosh knows what else, but all that didn't help them win the war. In fact they lost it. The question is not about technology, but about the guns that helped won that damned war. Those were the muzzleloaders. Hundreds of thousands of muzzleloaders. A few dozen technological marvels of the time didn't have any significant impact on the course of war. ВоенТех (talk) 18:54, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

If there are omissions from the list then they should be included. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 21:49, 21 August 2018 (UTC).

Yes, but with an addition that those items didn't play a crucial role. Balloons and railroads (for they were important force multipliers) should be included into Technology during the American Civil War (akin to Technology during World War I, Technology during World War II, etc.) ВоенТех (talk) 13:29, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

@BoeHTex

are you looking with your eyes open?!

Cavalryman V31 is correct

"Gentlemen." the nefelim you mean?!

"....but all that didn't help them win the war. In fact they lost it." the "fascists" and the "national" "socialists" (nazis) you are talking about of the black brotherhood (the so called old world order) had to "lose" because of the "capitalists" and the "communists" of the white brotherhood (the so called new world order) so the white brotherhood took again the "power" to "rule" the Goim

and the same to the "american" "civil" war, the union was of the white brotherhood and the confederacy was of the black brotherhood with the excuse again among other things of the "slavery" or the "freedom" so the white brotherhood took the "power" to "rule" the Goim

"The question is not about technology, but about the guns that helped won that damned war." and the "guns" that "helped" to murder the other side was the "hyper" "technology" that was given from the brotherhoods!

by the way the damned war as the "american" "civil" war was full of the "technology" from the brotherhoods!

they say that the "american" "civil" war was one of the earliest industrial wars in "human" "history", air balloons, locomotives, steamships, submarines, machine guns, mass produced weapons and various other military devices were employed extensively!

and at an industrial era the "technology" seem to had a crucial "role"!

"Those were the muzzleloaders." they were not only the muzzle loaders considering the breech loaders that existed even before the start of the "american" "civil" war!

"Hundreds of thousands of muzzleloaders." that was just the quantity and nothing else than that!

"A few dozen technological marvels of the time didn't have any significant impact on the course of war." you betrayed your own self there!

indeed, because they were a few dozen "technological" "marvels" and not lots they "didn't" had "any" "significant" "impact" on the "course" of war!

"....those items didn't play a crucial role." as said before at an industrial era those "items" apart from others seem to had "played" their own different "significant" "roles" no matter if they were "big" or "small" but they were not lots!

also a war doesn't have only one aspect no matter if it "loses" or it "wins"! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2149:826E:DB00:8469:89F7:8976:3BE2 (talk) 20:18, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

ВоенТех, this is a simple list article, if a weapon was employed against the other side during the war (and the weapon's individual page reflectes this with reliable sources) then it should be included, although the notes should reflect the weapon's limited use if it was not widely employed. If the weapon was only experimental, then (in my mind) it does not meet the threashold for inclusion. On a separate note, I think there is a good argument to change this page's name to List of personal weapons in the American Civil War, the page currently does not include artillery etc so this could avoid potential conflict.

IP user, your above diatride made my eyes hurt. I am unsure what you are trying to say but please read WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:NPOV, if any attempted inclusions do not meet these thay will be removed. Kind regards, Cavalryman V31 (talk) 06:09, 6 September 2018 (UTC).

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Hello Cavalryman V31! Regarding your recent edit: Hawken rifle and bowie knife were not predominant weapons of the American Civil War. The image should depict something more widespread. ВоенТех (talk) 12:33, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Hello ВоенТех, I had meant to message you myself but got called away. I am not attached to that image in any way, but do not think a wide angle picture of a museum display is the right thing for the header. Kind regards, Cavalryman V31 (talk) 13:15, 29 July 2018 (UTC).

I think, the most proper solution would be a composition of the most widely used weapons of the Civil War, the Springfield rifled musket and Pattern 1853 Enfield. If you don't mind, I'll search Commons for something that fits. ВоенТех (talk) 16:46, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

I think that's a splendid idea, although I think it should be an image of the standalone weapons, not a museum display. Kind regards, Cavalryman V31 (talk) 17:24, 30 July 2018 (UTC).

And what if we put them in hands, combining arms with uniform:

Civil War soldiers were armed primarily with muzzleloaders

Muzzleloaders dominated the battlefields of the Civil War, being used by both sides in hundreds of thousands

? ВоенТех (talk) 18:12, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

ВоенТех, I think photographs of civil war soldiers with their weapons is a terrific idea, but civil war reenactors is a terrible idea. Kind regards, Cavalryman V31 (talk) 22:56, 30 July 2018 (UTC).

I've got one that fits perfectly the given request, though it is a tintype (they didn't have Polaroids at that time). ВоенТех (talk) 12:06, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

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about the deletion of the equipment section by GELongstreet

Hey GELongstreet, it doesn't appear to be so much "superfluous" as you say, it just includes some emergency equipment that was used at that specific conflict

For example the photographic camera and the searchlight were significant

The photographic camera was used to the battlefield

At an 1863 operation to retake Charleston harbor, General Quincy Adams Gillmore laid siege to the Confederate stronghold at Fort Wagner, General Gillmore's Union artillery bombarded the fort night and day with the help of searchlights also known as limelights (because these chemical lamps used superheated balls of lime or calcium oxide to create an incandescent glow and had been used in theaters and lighthouses since 1830s) but General Gillmore's engineers were the first to adapt them for combat, by shining limelights on Fort Wagner, the Union forces were able to illuminate their artillery target while simultaneously blinding Confederate gunners and riflemen

These limelights were later used as searchlights to spot Confederate warships and blockade runners, in early 1865 a Union searchlight even helped detect a Confederate ironclad fleet as it tried to move along the James river under cover of darkness, later a Southern officer noted that a planned sneak attack was made impossible in part because of the Union's powerful limelight — Preceding unsigned comment added by 11.11.11.11. (talk • contribs) 17:50, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

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a summarization of what is deleted from the list

Personal weapons

Sidearms

• Colt M1847 Baby Dragoon revolver

Rifles and muskets

• Hawken M1823 rifled musket
• Meylin M1719 Pennsylvania-Kentucky rifled musket

Animals in the American Civil War

• Dog

Vehicles

Animals

• Camel

Equipment

This equipment was carried by the troops for emergency situations

• Bandages (Used for binding wounds)
• Hammer
• Hatchet (Used for chopping wood)
• Knife
• Matches (Used for starting fire)
• Nails
• Paddle (Used for emergency river crossings)
• Photographic camera (One of the first uses in warfare)
• Pickaxe (Used for digging trenches)
• Ramrod
• Razor
• Rope
• Saw
• Searchlight (Used for spotting and illuminating)
• Spade (Used for digging trenches)
• Wire

Communications

• Mail
• Telegraph

Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2022

add "Porter Turret Rifle" to list of rifles & muskets section, saw very limited use in war and should be stated that it was dangerous as chainfires could have a bullet shot back at the shooter Jameson Jones (talk) 18:57, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:06, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

EDIT request: Grenades were not new weapons

At the end of the first paragraph: "[..]and new weapons such as the early grenade[...]" Grenades have been around for a long time. In the 1600s they had special infantry unit called grenadiers specifically tasked with employing that weapon. I don't need to provide a reliable source, they should be very easy to find. 2001:999:788:4438:509:BEEC:B415:49A9 (talk) 06:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)