Talk:List of terrorist incidents in June 2018

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Levivich in topic RfC: terrorist incidents list criteria

A greeting

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Hi,I wanted to thank Koranion for what you have done in updating the page. You can contact me for any matter.

Tetsou TheIronman (talk) 18:15, 24 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Nicaraguan protests

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@Tetsou TheIronman: Here I argued why violent protests or riots in Nicaragua shouldn't be included in lists of terrorists incidents, a point that remains unanswered and on contrary, has kept being included without the needed references. "What's the difference between violent protests/riots/vandalism and terrorism" and "what defines this protests as "'right-wing extremism'". Including an reported torture and assassination of a police officer brings another problem: following the same train of thought, political violence by the State, namely "State terrorism", should also be included, such as over four hundred murders, tortures and forced disappearances. I already put as an example how controversial it can be already to consider groups such as the FARC, the IRA or Hamas as "terrorists" groups. The edits are a violation of WP:NPOV and WP:LABEL, and being a violation of one of the five pillars (WP:5P2), they cannot be given "a weeks of tolerance". They have to be explained accordingly with the policies. --Jamez42 (talk) 17:00, 12 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Jamez42: I argued why this attacks should be incorporated to the list. The term of terrorism it may vary depending on the country and the context, for example the organizations you mentioned (such as the FARC or Hamas) were openly considered terrorist in their countries of origin despite having some international support. In the editions that I upload on this platform, I tried to include all the extremist ideologies (Groups like New Peoples Army and ELN (Communist), Federazione Anarchica Informale and other cells (anarchist), etc). At no time should you minimize the magnitude of the repression that is being suffered in Nicaragua, but it also created that these incidents are reported as spots in the citizen movement in that country. I consider your accusations violation of WP:NPOV and WP:LABEL they are exaggerated and at no time flatter the actions of the government forces, but i can change the denomination of the attackers if you see it necessary.

@Tetsou TheIronman: The problem starts precisely with the terminology. No one besides the Nicaraguan government and its allies seems to have considered the protesters as "terrorists". Also, changing the term would automatically discard the inclusion of the event in the list. --Jamez42 (talk) 01:40, 14 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Jamez42: Yes, the terminology is complicated, but i would only ask you to keep an open mind about the attackers or the incidents that might happen in the future. In the same way, the incident will not be resubmitted until it finds proof that it was state terrorism or any other

RfC: terrorist incidents list criteria

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  You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of terrorist incidents#RfC: List criteria. Levivich 18:01, 10 August 2019 (UTC)Reply