Talk:List of owners of English football clubs

Holding companies

I don't think we should list the holding companies that the owners use (ex. Chelsea FC PLC). Some of these structures are complex and don't add much useful info to the list.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 10:07, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

You make a valid point and I have scrapped them. As you said, it can get very complex. Chelsea's holding company is owned by another holding company, which is owned by Roman. I just want to make the list reliable but probably went a bit overboard. Gunk 78 (talk) 11:39, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

10% ownership

Why do we want to remove owners who hold less than 10% of a club from this list?--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 10:56, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Much like the holding companies, ownership can become very complicated as minority investors hold very little stakes. 10% came to mind when I was referencing the official websites of some clubs. Most of them only list members with at least a 10% stake. For example, Swansea have many shareholders, and the list would be too long, so where is the cut-off point? Swansea shareholders include: OTH Limited (Martin Morgan), Redi Plastics Limited (Huw Jenkins), Five Thirty Ltd (Brian Katzen), and Swansea Jacks Ltd (John van Zweden and David Morgan) – these, together with Mel Nurse, Robert Davies and Olliedom Ltd (Dineen family). Maybe we should just list the majority shareholder(s)? I don't mind too much, but I guess it depends on what others think also. What do you think? Let's work together to get a good page going here. Gunk 78 (talk) 12:33, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I see your point. It just didn't seem right to remove Arsenal chairman, Peter Hill-Wood. He owns lass than 1%, but that's worth around £10 million. I'd be interested in other opinions--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 01:47, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I think I should put him back in. I have come across many who own under 10% but are worth millions. I guess the net worth of investors doesn't really have a reflection on how much they invest though. For all we know, although it might be an extreme example, Swansea could be worth more than Manchester City (in ownership terms) without even knowing it. They could have an unknown billionaire minority shareholder who just doesn't choose to invest that much money. Gunk 78 (talk) 09:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Other issues

Should net worth be included for League One? I can't find many of them, and the ones I can find are outdated. It would most likely be an empty row if we did include it. Also, should we put the names of the owners' companies, or just the industry they operate in? I think company names are more insightful. Many club owners also have small stakes in several companies, so are these best referred to as 'investment', while we only list their major business ventures?Gunk 78 (talk) 12:10, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned references in List of English football club owners

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Needs updating for 2016-17

As said in headline. Only some of the leagues are updated, and some teams in wrong league. Whole article needs an overhaul. Sine Cera, Infobesity (talk) 03:45, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Done for now. Sine Cera, Infobesity (talk) 15:23, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

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Source of wealth

I believe this to be off-topic and propose it be removed. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

I disagree. I think it is interesting.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 22:56, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Wigan Athletic

I have attempted to add more specific information about new Wigan Athletic owner, Mike Danson.

Under 'Estimated combined net worth' I provided a figure accompanied by a reliable source - The Sunday Times Rich List 2023. At the bottom of the sourced page there is a drop-down menu which cites Mike Danson's worth as '£1.284bn' ($1.632bn), which I have converted from GBP to USD and scaled down to '$1.6B' in keeping with the article's existing currency, figures and language format. This edit has been reversed by User 'Egghead06'.

The same Sunday Times source lists Danson's 'Source of wealth' as GlobalData. Under this article's own 'Source of wealth' section, I replaced the original edit that simply states 'Investment' (and links to the corresponding Wikipedia article) with a link to the existing Wikipedia article on GlobalData, in which Danson is listed by name as the company's CEO. This edit was also reversed by the same User.

Attempts at discussing this on the User's talk page have been unsuccessful (a query on the matter was ignored and subsequently deleted). I have opened this account to pursue the issue further and would greatly appreciate clarity on the matter. WAFCupdates (talk) 19:34, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi, User:WAFCupdates, I have reinstated the information with an explanation in the edit summary. Paul W (talk) 10:44, 5 July 2023 (UTC)