Talk:List of circumnavigations

Cleanup ideas

This list is a real mess! Some ideas for cleanup:

• Merge the 3 maritime sections into one section
• People who have more then one entry on the list, perhaps combine into single entries per person?
• New section stucture: Maritime, Aviation, Mixed, Fictional

Would love to hear suggestions and please be bold and lend a hand. Russeasby 02:49, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Apparent conflict

One of these list items appears to need correction or qualification:

• Martín Ignacio de Loyola, 1580–1584 and 1585–1589. First person to circumnavigate the world twice, and first one doing so in each of both directions (westwards and eastwards).
• Tobias Furneaux, 1772–1774, in HMS Adventure. The first circumnavigation from west to east. (Furneaux was a veteran of Byron's expedition so he was also the first person to circumnavigate in both directions.)

Brian Hardy 78.147.203.153 (talk) 03:34, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Missing people

Where is Captain Voss?

zac sunderland, seems to be notable: http://www.zacsunderland.com/media.html

Mike Parham (?) Needs sources

Also Jessica Watson seems to be on course (but hasn't completed a circumnavigation yet)

-- Kim Bruning (talk) 22:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

I added Michael Perham. When Jessica finishes in May (probably) we should replace Mike with Jessica, and then we could replace her with Abby Sunderland when (if) she finished in July/August. --BIL (talk) 23:21, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Should Kalākaua's journey around the world be included?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:48, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

What about polish sailor Henryk Jaskuła, who circumnavigated the was the third man to circumnavigate the globe, just after Robin Knox-Johnston and Chay Blyth? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.205.138.210 (talk) 13:45, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

What about Bill Pinkney 1990-1992 first black sailor to solo circumnavigate, via the capes. See New York Times artcle 9/1/2023. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.133.151.73 (talk) 20:05, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Reid Stowe

This individual claims to hold the "record" of "longest time at sea". It won't be recognized by Guinness WBOR or World Sailing Speed Record Council, which of course WOULD make it an official record. The most reliable source that I have found to date is "Ripley's Believe it or Not", but this couldn't be classified as an official record keeper of ANY kind. Stowe dropped off the crewmember during the voyage off Rottnest Island, Australia and in doing so was "rafted off" to the rescue boat. I would think that this would constitute a "stop" as the vessel was not underway during the time of the transfer. To say that a stop would require anchoring would be erroneous, because in my experience as a sailor, even while anchored the boat is still moving. I think this is splitting hairs IMO. While a global circumnavigation is certainly an accomplishment, let's get the article right. Stowe only completed about half of the voyage solo. Regards Aloha27 (talk) 22:05, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

It sounds like you were personally there during the transfer. With such details of what happened, what else am I to assume? Tell me more. I want to know! I saw the pics of the transfer at the 1000-day site, and the schooner had two full sails up (main and fore), tight to the wind, while the transfer boat (RIB?) was parked next to the schooner. That means that the schooner was underway, and the transfer boat was being pulled along during the transfer. No stop there.

BTW, what is "rafted off"? That's not even a correct term. The verb "to raft" is normally used in this context: "verb (used without object) -- to use a raft; go or travel on a raft." Reid did not travel on the raft, Soanya did. This is the other use of the verb: "[with object] bring or fasten together (a number of boats or other objects) side by side: we rafted the boats together off the shores of Murchison Island"--Skol fir (talk) 03:55, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Follow That Fire Engine

Hi Guys,

My name is Steve Moore and I was the driving force behind the registered charity Follow That Fire Engine (FTFE). FTFE was a Guinness world record setting, global circumnavigation expedition in a 1974 Mercedes fire engine, successfully completed in 2011. FTFE was dedicated to the memory of my father, ex-FireFighter Garth Moore, who sadly passed away after a brave battle with lung cancer on 18th July 2009.

We drove an incredible 51,000km, through 5 continents & 28 countries, over 9 months, raising over £120,000 in the process. The expedition was 100% self-funded by the FTFE crew, meaning that every penny raise went to three charities. We took a fire engine through and over every possible terrain known to man! Border preparation took over 2 years, as you can imagine, driving a fire engine successfully into Russia and China was incredibly difficult. We then had the “small” task of shipping the fire engine across the world’s oceans. An impossible challenge made possible by incredibly generous people all round the world.

Our webstie www.followthatfireengine.com

We had huge press exposure around the world. For TV news http://www.followthatfireengine.com/news/expedition-updates/in-the-news-around-the-world/

Some videos http://www.youtube.com/user/followthatfireengine?feature=mhee

Can I be included on this page please

Steve — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.244.220.82 (talk) 20:39, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Cable And Wireless

Didn't the Cable and Wireless Adventurer have a record in the motorized boat category? Bioniclepluslotr (talk) 18:41, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

The First

If the Magellan voyage was the first circumnavigation, then Magellan's Malay slave would have to be the first human being to physically travel westward and return by east.Oliver Puertogallera (talk) 04:21, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Enrique of Malacca almost made it, as did Magellan by the same logic. However there's no evidence that either of them started further east than Malacca (102° E) or finished further west than 124°E — Enrique on Cebu and Magellan on Mactan just off the coast of Cebu. Even if one or both had reached the Moluccas (128°E) earlier it wouldn't technically have counted as Cebu is 1,000 miles north of the Moluccas and for a circumnavigation it's necessary to return to the same point; but the assertion that either of them did appears to be based on a confusion between the two names. If you can prove otherwise it would make an interesting case. Chris55 (talk) 13:02, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

They weren't doing it for sport and there was no need for them to go 1500 km out of their way for arbitrary criteria. If there were proof that they made it the rest of the way back around the meridians, it would've been a circumnavigation at that point. (More detailed rules are necessary simply because it's so simple at this point.) There just isn't. — LlywelynII 11:11, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Circumnavigation of Afro-Eurasia

Has it ever been done? My question @ Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous#Circumnavigation of the Europe-Asia-Africa land mass has drawn a blank so far. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:59, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Somebody should add yet another youngest aviator and probably to clean some of the older youngest ones

i mean lachlan smart, he's 1894.154.66.240 (talk) 06:31, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

First Native Hawaiian to circumnavigate the globe

It would be interesting to know who was the first Native Hawaiian to circumnavigate the globe. Two bios I created (Kiliwehi and William Hoapili Kaauwai) seem to be the earliest ones I can find to travel what would count as a circumnavigation from Hawaii to Panama, to Europe, to New Zealand and back to Hawaii.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:53, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Add Louis Cole and JP Schulze to list

Louis Cole (youtube channel: FunForLouis) and JP Schulze to the list of Aircraft list. They recently landed. It's a well documented trip that was on television news. 108.93.181.106 (talk) 22:08, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Getting real about aerial circumnavigation

Having done a little work on the page, it has become plain to me that we're not comparing like with like if we don't observe some sort of standard in listing these formidable achievements. In normal parlance, one thinks of circumnavigation as going the whole way around something, so if one were to fly one circuit of the arctic circle, no one would seriously accept that as a circumnavigation of the Earth. It's a circumnavigation of the North Pole (at a respectable distance, and avoiding the worst of the weather!). The FAI have a remarkably loose definition, requiring only that the flight cover a distance no less than the length of the Tropic of Cancer, cross all meridians in one direction, return to point of departure and no breaks in the route. The Guinness record people add that the equator must be crossed. Others speak of a true circumnavigation needing to travel a distance not less than the length of the Equator, cross it twice and traverse a pair of antipodes. Personally, I prefer the latter, most rigorous, which is bound to please the purist. I am inclined now to subheading the aerial list from most to least rigorous, so that the toughest, greatest achievements appear first, thus attracting most attention from readers. Any objectors or alternate views before I wade into that? sirlanz 14:20, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

First man to circumnavigate twice

As published among others by Harry Kelsey in "The First Circumnavigators", one of the four survivors of the Laoisa expedition was Hans of Aachen, a German gunner who already took part in the Magellan expedition. Thus, he is the first man to circumnavigate twice, not Ignacio de Loyola. If there is no objection here, I will change that in the article. Loyola remains the first man to circumnavigate in both directions.ASchudak (talk) 17:44, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Guy's name is more often Maestre Anes (Spanish: Juan Alemán de Aquisgrán; German: Hans aus Aachen) and not "Hans von Aachen", who was a painter. Von ~ can just mean aus ~ but it generally has the conception of some kind of nobility or connection to it. In any case, the Germans seem to go out of their way to avoid using it for him for some reason even if Kelsey may've called him that. (I'm not seeing it but might just be missing it.)

It's more impressive than you made it though. He did Magellan's trip, Loaisa's, and Villalobos's, getting at least as far as the Philippines and Spice Islands a third time. I think people would make a bigger deal if he had been with the survivors of the Villalobos Expedition carried back to Lisbon so I assume he doesn't show up in the records there, but I don't see anyone with a complete list of those 117 guys either so he might've been (?). — LlywelynII 11:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

De la Torre

See Talk:Circumnavigation#De la Torre. There's a missing Spanish expedition (or one too many) and a guy getting killed off at the wrong place. — LlywelynII 11:16, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Circumnavigating Antarctica

We currently claim that Cook was the first to circumnavigate Antarctica, without any source given. On purely geometric grounds, everyone who circumnavigates the globe on water also circumnavigates Antarctica (if not necessarily closely). This includes Magellan's expedition, and Drake's voyage, both much earlier. Unless we can find a source that indicates how Cook's voyage was special with respect to this, I think we need to strike it (or qualify it). --Stephan Schulz (talk) 16:15, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Added "high southern" to make clear the significance. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 10:41, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Villalobos expedition should be added.

The survivors of the Villalobos voyage circumnavigated the world after being captured by the Portuguese and shipped to Portugal. This happened after the Loaísa expedition and before the Drake expedition. 151.203.80.156 (talk) 18:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

@151.203.80.156 Ok it was launched from modern day Mexico so it wasn't the expedition itself (launched in 1542) that circumnavigated the world however the men were presumably originally from Spain so once they had been shipped to Portugal after capture they would have circumnavigated the world. 151.203.80.156 (talk) 19:16, 15 February 2024 (UTC)