Talk:Lego Masters (American TV series)

Futon Critic and Zap2it as sources

As I stated in my recent edit summary, having both of these sources is perfectly fine. There are many other shows that have it all set up like this. Things such as the plot, credits, etc. do not need to be sourced. See this past discussion regarding the sources for MasterChef episodes, as IJBall is much better at explaining it than I am. (As another note, I know I went at that the wrong way with reverts/reports, but I know much better/more now than I did then.)

And in regards to having the source for titles in the header of the table vs. as RTitle for each individual episode, just putting it in the header applies to every episode listed in the table and you do not need to update the source weekly, just what is listed in the table. Magitroopa (talk) 04:23, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Proposed elimination table color schematic

  The team won the challenge

  The team was in the top two

  The team was safe from elimination

  The team was in the bottom two

  The team was eliminated from the competition

I helped implement a similar style in the elimination tables for RuPaul’s Drag Race a while back. I think it makes sense to use shades of blue for the top two and winner and shades of red for the bottom two and eliminee, with the bolder, more visually potent colors highlighting the extremes. IMO the people who are just safe don’t need a color at all (or white rather) because there’s no real significance in being neither in the top two nor the bottom two. I think with this color scheme it’s easier to analyze at a glance. MarkMc1990 (talk) 04:19, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

See MOS:COLOR. My gut tells me the top two and bottom two are too close to be used. --Masem (t) 04:28, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Is there some sort of reason green can't be used? I'd suggest to use similar colors to that of The Masked Singer. I definitely think the green is better suited for safe teams. than just something like white. Also taking a glance at RuPaul's Drag Race (season 11)#Contestant progress, I don't think we'll be needing that many colors for different results. I'd personally keep the table the way it is, but maybe changing the "HIGH" color to pink so there's not three variations of green in it. Magitroopa (talk) 04:49, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Agreed. - Brojam (talk) 04:57, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

The shades for challenge winner and eliminee are much more saturated than the ones for top two and bottom two which would help the colorblind distinguish. I think of it like those climate charts that use varying intensities of red and blue to convey hot and cold. The way the colors are now, I think the challenge winner gold and bottom two yellow are too close, which is especially problematic considering they are on opposite sides of the results spectrum. I like the green, yellow, and red for safe, bottom two, and eliminated respectively but I think the challenge winner should be a different color. And dark green for second place makes no sense to me. In regards to RPDR, they added more colors sometime after my original proposal but the red and blue remain. MarkMc1990 (talk) 05:04, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

I actually haven't been watching the show that recently due to The Masked Singer airing right before it and I'm still busy updating things following those new episodes (I need to catch up on LEGO Masters at some point, I swear I will!). So I mainly only watched the first episode but haven't watched any since. My main point is to get to this question: is it really that necessary to denote what teams got second place? In episodes 3 and 4, for example, is there something special awarded to the 2nd place team, or is it just that the top 2 teams are announced and one of them is then the winner? Magitroopa (talk) 05:15, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

There is nothing special given to second place, but it’s the same for second-to-last place in the bottom two, no? The bottom two teams are announced and one of them goes home. The surviving bottom two member doesn’t get any sort of penalty just like the second placer doesn’t get a reward. This goes back to my point about saturation denoting the more important result. The bottom two are both red because it’s a negative thing to be in the bottom two, but the elimined contestant gets a more saturated red because being eliminated is more significant than merely being in the bottom two. Maybe this is one of those things that only makes sense to me. Like I said, the green/yellow/red makes sense but I think we should adjust the colors for the top two and also probably the golden brick user.

I know in general across WP for any judged reality show if there are teams that are clearly called out as "top" or "bottom" from the others, the pages try to make that indication (marking the winner and eliminated team separately) - like with Project Runway and Top Chef. For this show, only in this last ep did they call out a second top team. --Masem (t) 05:38, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Three Teams Remain?

I missed last week's show, but was there no elimination last time? I noticed that the graph seemed to indicate that there were safe teams and teams at risk, but no elimination. Error, or ignorance on my part? 172.79.72.34 (talk) 03:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

I haven't had the time to watch the series myself due to other shows I'm watching and other things going on in my life (still hoping to watch it at some point...) However, quickly checking the end of the latest episode, I can confirm that the table is correct. The episode was non-elimination. ("If I've learned one thing from Star Wars- that audiences love a good surprise. Jamie, I am your father... and nobody is going home today!") Magitroopa (talk) 05:12, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok thanks. 172.79.72.34 (talk) 05:10, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Watch for renewal news

During the finale, they did say they are looking for contestants for next season. we can't use this for affirmation that a second season is confirmed (and Variety's latest wrap up of the current state of programs awaiting confirmation includes LM as yet confirmed as of 5 days ago), but it does sound like the news is good as it has good ratings on par with 9-1-1. --Masem (t) 05:37, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Split into season articles

I seem to recall discussing this with someone recently (but can't recall who, lol- apologies to who it was!) but I just wanted to give a little FYI that if someone else doesn't get to it beforehand, I'll likely be splitting this off (soon) into separate season 1 & 2 articles to go alongside this main article- likely something similar to Tough as Nails, Tough as Nails (season 1), and Tough as Nails (season 2). At this point, don't think there's a need to have all the information (episode tables + progress charts) combined into this one article. Magitroopa (talk) 02:14, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Given how little can be said about the individual seasons as well as the show overall, I'd recommend against this. The show is notable as a whole, but whether each season is (in contrast to other major reality TV shows like The Masked Singer) is highly questionable. --Masem (t) 03:15, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Well in that case- some cleanup/reformatting/reordering will be needed in the article... I'll try to get to that later today (if not, then likely sometime later this week). Magitroopa (talk) 20:03, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

D'oh! How about we just forget this conversation ever happened... :P I was just thinking about this discussion on the article season splitting and realized that this was not the show I was thinking of... turns out I was thinking of Holey Moley, of which, that can be seen here (of course, if there are eventually more than just the two seasons of this show, a seasons article split will likely need to occur then in the future, but not now. Will still be doing the cleanup/reformatting/reordering here I had mentioned above.). Magitroopa (talk) 19:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi! I have started drafts for each season, Draft:Lego Masters (American season 1) and Draft:Lego Masters (American season 2) - SecondLooneyaccount (talk)