Talk:Leagues of China

Chuulghan or Aymag?

Does Chinese méng 盟 (league) correspond to Mongolian chuulghan (?) or rather aymag? Babelfisch 00:50, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Meng corresponds to ayimaɤ and corresponded to čiɤulɤan although the meaning of "league" is carried by the latter.

During the Qing Dynasty, the hierarchy of the Mongolian administrative system was as follows: čiɤulɤan -> ayimaɤ -> qosiɤu. Ayimaɤ had been a spontaneous unit among the Mongol tribes but had no administrative function during the Qing Dynasty. Lord of each čiɤulɤan regularly held an assembly. In Northern Mongolia, čiɤulɤan corresponded one-to-one with ayimaɤ, so each čiɤulɤan was known by ayimaɤ's name. Some time after the collapse of the Qing Dynasty, the name of čiɤulɤan was replaced by ayimaɤ and the original ayimaɤ was abolished in Inner Mongolia. But for some reason, the Chinese name was left unchanged. In Mongolian People's Republic, traditional ayimaɤs were reorganized into smaller ayimaɤs. --Nanshu 01:50, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Great! Maybe that information could be incorporated into the article. Just one note: I think you're confusing the vowel ɤ with the consonants ɣ (or better: γ) here. They look very similar in many fonts. Babelfisch 05:26, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I use a mongolian transliteration input system I made myself. Hmm, I have to fix misspellings I spread over Wikipedia. --Nanshu 22:03, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Just in case anyone reads this: the names of aimags and chuulgans in Outer Mongolia were not the same. Khan Uulyn Chuulgan was the chuulgan of Tusheet Khan aimag, Kherlen Bars Khotyn Chuulgan was that of Setsen Khan aimag etc. At least that's what my sources say. That there was a 1-1-correspondence between aimags and chuulgans in Outer Mongolia is correct. Yaan (talk) 09:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)