Talk:Lango language (Uganda)

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Confused lead paragraph

@Ngunalik insists on reverting the lead paragraph to the following confused, ungrammatical, and unreferenced text: "Lango (also called Leb-Lango) is not exclusively a Luo language, although linguists have grouped it under the Luo languages in the past, it is not a Luo language but instead a mixture of Ateker languages and broken Luo dialects."

The supposed reference for this is http://www.ugandatravelguide.com/langi-culture.html , but that page doesn't support it.

@Ngunalik, please don't make any more reverts without supporting your claims with a reliable source. If you want to explain why you are sure that you are right, please do it on the talk page first. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 17:30, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Who are you and what do you think you are? Am I the only person who worked on this article? Where has it been stated before that Lango is one of the Luo/Lwo languages? Several people have worked on this and it is not only me. If you revert the writing merely on the gramma then why did you not correct the gramma? You are starting a new topic from an already built up body of articles. This article has been a problem to sort for a long time and Wiki asked people to help. You quoted one man from Kenya who perhaps did research long ago which does not reflect on going vast research. What was put there have been backed up by the elders of those communities. You can search these yourself. Stop the vandalims please. Ngunalik (talk) 18:03, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Some problems with your proposed lead section:

• The lead section is supposed to say what a thing is, not what it is not.
• Ethnologue and Glottolog, which are referenced in this article, both classify it under Luo and don't mention Ateker. Which source says that it is "a mixture of Ateker languages and broken Luo dialects"?
• "Broken dialects" is not the kind of terminology that academic sources in the field of linguistics use.

The grammar is only a minor issue. These issues are the important ones. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 18:08, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Amir E. AharoniI have asked you, did you find that I am the only editor who worked on this? Several people have been editing, it is not my proposal. You are not reading the body of the articles but you just took some one reference and started to say Lango is one of the Luo languages... Do you know the implication of this? Lango is not a purely Luo language, no. They speak Ateker as well mixed with some Luo words. If you do not know the language don't start changing things just because you want to. Ateker is a different ethnic group and there is article about that already.Ngunalik. Ngunalik (talk) 18:17, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how many people edited the article. What matters is which reliable sources support your claims. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 18:19, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Amir E. Aharoni (talk) What you put there is not reliable either. And you keep arguing, it appears you have not read the articles nor looked up some of the references already placed there, not by me. These were placed by researches, one said in the past Lango was grouped under Nilotics but they are not Nilotics rather they are Hamatics. Why cant you take time read the article instead of fighting here. Wikipedia asked people to sort it out but you have started to pull it down without checking the consistency. Ngunalik (talk) 18:36, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Amir E. Aharoni (talk), as I said if you do not know it you search about the language. There are planty of articles on this already. Lango is subset of Teso, all ethnic clan names of Lango are in Teso Ateker language not one of it is in Lwo/Lwo language. They belong to Ateker, past linguists may have grouped it wrongly that is what several editors have already written. So please do not revert what editors have started to bring up. It is up to researchers to build on this. Ngunalik Ngunalik (talk) 18:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)