Talk:La Vivandière (Gilbert)

Monkey quote

From libretto:

“ That men were monkeys once—to that I bow;
(looking at Lord Margate) I know one who's less man than monkey, now;
That monkeys once were men, peers, statesmen, flunkies—
That's rather hard on unoffending monkeys! ”

-- Ssilvers (talk) 17:49, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

That isn't in the libretto to which you've linked the article! Ref needed. Tim riley (talk) 20:34, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Adam C. added that to the Gillbert article. I'll chase him. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:47, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

On Fri, 12/10/10, Adam C. wrote: "I got it from a copy of the libretto at the National Library of Scotland. It's about 2/3rds through, referring to the unwanted suitor." -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:31, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I may have to go down to the British Library one day towards the end of next week! Tim riley (talk) 21:47, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

TR, see Dark and Grey, pp. 47 to 49.

Also, see the following, which I cannot (and don't really want to) access:

• this article.
• "Verdian opera burlesqued"
• "Gilbert and Donizetti" Opera Quarterly. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I have Dark and Grey on my shelves, and have downloaded the two articles you mention. I'll peruse and ponder. Meanwhile I am sternly resisting the urge, given the location of the premiere, to point out, irrelevantly, that Donizetti wrote an opera called Emilia di Liverpool. Tim riley (talk) 20:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you resisted that urge! -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:44, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK nom

I nominated this article here. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:54, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

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