Talk:LGBT rights opposition

Latest comment: 8 days ago by Zenomonoz in topic First sentence

Not motivations

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The second paragraph notes that it may be motivated by "religion, moral beliefs, homophobia, transphobia, bigotry, animosity, political ideologies, or other reasons". But homophobia, transphobia and especially animosity aren't motivations for opposing it but rather ways said opposition may express itself in/contribute to. Someone doesn't oppose their rights because they're X-phobic, they oppose rights and they're X-phobic (because of another reason). Religion, moral beliefs, bigotry and political ideologies are all possible (as well as the "or other reasons"), but, while they are linked, the phobias and animosity aren't. Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 11:30, 16 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

LGBT Doesn't only mean gay...

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Hello. I was reading your article, and I just have to say that a majority of the "LGBT rights opposition" only includes countries' and groups views on homosexuality in general. That's great to talk about when it comes to the "G" in "LGBT", but I've yet to find much to talk about transgender rights opposition, or the entire group in general. Flame486 (talk) 22:49, 19 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Synonyms

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In the list of motivations for the movement we list both bigotry and religion. Aren't these two synonyms? Religions tend to teach their adherents to hate other people, and to discriminate in their behavior towards others. Dimadick (talk) 08:24, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

You'd need to specify from what to what you want changed. If you're agrument is to get rid of the word religion, I would oppose because its not commonly accepted that bigotry equals religion. If you are wanting to make an argument that relgion equals bigotry, as 2603:6011:2C00:3C5:3FD6:F17B:55EB:1EAB (talk) 03:01, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

First sentence

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Per MOS:LEADSENTENCE, "If the article title is merely descriptive—such as Electrical characteristics of dynamic loudspeakers—the title does not need to appear verbatim in the main text." This is basically the situation we're in. "LGBT rights opposition" is not a standardly-used phrase; a quick Google search suggests that most of the places using it are quoting this page. A newspapers.com search finds zero uses of the phrase. As such, we shouldn't be spending that first sentence defining that phrase. Instead, I suggest something like "Opposition to legal rights for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people exists throughout the world." -- Nat Gertler (talk) 15:55, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sounds good. Zenomonoz (talk) 00:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC)Reply