Talk:Knee/Archive 1

Archive 1

Blood Supply and Human Anatomy

First of all, I linked "Recurrent branch of anterior tibial artery" in /*Blood Supply*/ to anterior tibial recurrent artery. I assumed they refer to the same thing, but I just want to check with someone with a formal medical background. If my assumption is correct, then should the link caption just be changed to "anterior tibial recurrent artery" for the sake of congruity? Secondly, I linked "articular rete" to the rete disambiguation page—not sure if anything on that list fits this usage (perhaps rete mirabile?). Or maybe someone could create a stub/article for articular rete?

Lastly, I can't find "gyena" in any English dictionary or on any of the online medical dictionaries. All of the Google results containing that word seem to cite this Wikipedia article as the source (/*Human Anatomy*/ "The knee (also known as gyena) is a..."). Can someone confirm that this is indeed a medical/scientific term for the knee? A citation would be nice. --Subversive Sound (talk) 01:12, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Universal

The article assumes the reader is interested in the human knee.

Are there any differences to the knee in the animal world?

Stephanwehner (talk) 17:43, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

 See the entry on Bipedalism. It may provide the desired information.

condyloid joints

_ _ I will remove "condyloid variety of" on the understanding that "synovial" implies condyloid joint; in any case that mystifying construction of un-lk'd tech terms is unacceptable, and if mine is wrong, it should be replaced with something that imply the article is for only those who have mastered an anatomy course.
_ _ Until verified otherwise, we can assume that kneecaps are not inique to the the primates, and turning the article on "knee" into one worded as if it were not mostly about (at least) the mammalian knee, if not the tetrapod knee. (Birds evidently have carpals.)
--Jerzy•t 00:46, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

a "condyloid" joint is one type of "synovial" joint, like a beaver is one kind of rodent.Sfahey 03:14, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Patellar Tendon/Ligament?

Can anybody say why the patellar tendon often is called a tendon instead of a ligament? Root4(one) 03:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Ligaments attach bone to bone; tendons do muscle to bone. The kneecap is a special kind of bone, as it sits within a muscle-tendon unit, so either descriptor fits. Sfahey 02:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

the 'kneepit'

In the TV show Ally Mcbeal, it suggested that there was an erogonous zone in the 'knee pit'. It would be worth mentioning whether this is true or not.

Some of the nerves down there (at least on me, a female) are fairly sensitive, though mostly not in the "pit" part of it... but I wouldn't call it an erogenous zone. 4.235.69.216 17:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

reading error

Hey, I thought the picture of the male leg was pretty smooth, and the female was hairy as anything, so I looked at the file names and discovered they were backwards. So I switched them. Yay! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.173.40.13 (talk) 11:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Menisci

Are they the same as what, in the UK, are called cartilages (sp?)? --Dweller (talk) 20:30, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Replaced information

I expanded/reworked the movement section and failed to integrate the following information:

“ Also, the knee has special locking and unlocking mechanisms, related to movement by the femoral condyles on the tibial plateau. The ligaments and menisci, along with the muscles which traverse the joint, prevent movement beyond the knee's intended range of motion. It is also classified as a hinge joint.

The range of movement is as follows: Flexion is permitted up to 120º when the hip is extended, 140º when the hip is flexed and 160º when the knee is flexed passively. Medial rotation is limited to 10º and lateral rotation to 30º .

”

However, the information is probably correct, so anyone who knows where this information comes from should add it back to the article together with appropriate references.

--Adding references ( talk | contribs ) 17:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup tag, March 2009

This article has accumulated tangential information, particularly about ACL injury, surgery, and rehab. That information should be moved to the relevant article(s), and replaced by links to those articles. --Una Smith (talk) 17:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

craig

hi am just concern over my left knee! every time I walk and run my knee clicks and am worried that this may leed to long time damage like artheritis. does any one know whythis may be happening?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.18.147 (talk) 21:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Female knee injuries

I was told by an ATC that women tend to have more problems with knee injuries than men due to the angle of the femur (itself caused by the child-bearing hips we have). Exactly how true is this? 4.235.69.216 17:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

The information can be found at Anterior_cruciate_ligament#Main_Reason_For_Female_ACL_Tears. Puchiko (Talk-email) 21:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Better picture needed

What makes the knee so important is that it bends. I can't believe that the photo at the top of the article is of a straight knee. Am I crazy to think a slightly bent knee would make more sense? 98.82.216.176 (talk) 16:55, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

ERROR in the intro

The articulatio genus (knee joint) is considered to have two primary articulations: 1. Articulatio femorotibialis (loadbearing) 2. Articulatio femoropatellaris (considered friction-reducing)

Some (I've read different well recognized textbooks disagreeing!) consider the articulatio tibiofibularis proximalis to be a third knee articulation..

So what the article says now is VERY wrong.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HjalteHolm (talk • contribs) 20:23, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

"Break" the knee

I dl'd the recent add'n since it is not clear what part of the "knee" one is to "break." Testing this "on" students also suggests it is bogus. Sfahey 22:19, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

An animation of the range of movement of the knee would be a valuable addition to this page, I came here looking for animation reference material and woulc have found something such as that very useful.

We should also add a part about knees taking arrows, because that causes some guards not to be adventurers anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.23.74 (talk) 07:49, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Pic

Would someone be able to put up a picture? Barrylb 09:08, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

... and can someone else correct the upside-down x-ray? Sfahey 02:03, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It is not upside-down --WS 20:29, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

So it isn't! Either I was standing on my head, someone fixed it, or it was an x-ray on some other page ... I hope! Sfahey 22:27, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

I would just like to make a comment that I *love* the current picture. The first time I saw it was when I was trying to look up ligaments for my med school anatomy class, and this was absolutely not what I expected after being buried in textbooks all day. I crack up every time I see it.Docfaust (talk) 01:06, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Negative health effects of cycling?

Can information be added to the article on the negative health effects of regular cycling on the knees? Does long-term regular cycling of an hour a day permanently or temporarily wear out or damage any part of the knees, including the cartilage, synovial tissue or synovial membrane? Cartilage does not heal from damage, so any damage is permanent. Does it make a difference if anyone uses cycling as a high-intensity interval training method? Wsmss (talk) 13:37, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

It's been almost a year and a half since I asked this question, and there still hasn't been any new info on it. Aren't there any studies into how cycling harms health, especially the cartilage in knees? There's a 2004 study on how it damages the urogenital part of the body, but what other studies are there? Wsmss (talk) 10:32, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Anterolateral Ligament

Given the discovery, or perhaps rediscovery, of the anterolateral ligament in the knee, might this page need to be updated to reflect this "new" ligament? 121.215.149.79 (talk) 16:45, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

It would be a good idea to incorporate it into the article. You should go ahead and write a couple of lines about it. JakobSteenberg (talk) 21:04, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

muscles

i'm surprised there isn't a muscles section... FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 12:12, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

I started one today. It need a lot of work and especially references are needed but it is a start. JakobSteenberg (talk) 18:18, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

articular pressure

can someone tell me what the articular pressure in the knee joint is .. and how much amoount of synovial fluid is there .. can someone elaborate on the physiology?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.200.146.34 (talk) 03:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Was this explained, to the reader or in the article? -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:17, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Regular knee picture?

Can we have one picture of a normal, healthy knee as it looks on an everyday human, rather than a scientific diagram? bd2412 T 21:34, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Link to Spanish WP article

This article should be linked to the WP article "Articulación de la rodilla" (en español). I tried to do it myself, but couldn't. Perhaps someone with the necessary skill could do so. Thanks. Lyttle-Wight (talk) 22:10, 29 May 2017 (UTC)