Talk:Kiba (TV series)

A section for Spirits

Considering the official site is listing all the spirits within Kiba, should we be adding a section listing them as well? http://www.ki-ba.com/kibachara/spirit.html --Kamajii 19:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest a list, but that may not be the best. It would be good to frame this in terms of product marketing rather than just another recap of the fiction used in the series. The TCG doesn't seem to be out yet, though it was supposedly out in July. We really have way too many images on this article, some will have to be removed anyway. (WP:FU :The amount of copyrighted work used should be as little as possible. Low-resolution images should be used instead of high-resolution images. Do not use multiple images or media clips if one will serve the purpose adequately.) --Kunzite 00:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm thinking that it may indeed be a good idea to focus a little more on the spirits in the show. As it is, the key spirits seem more like a side note in the article than something important to the show. The most prominent symbolism in the show lies in Zed's angelic Amil Gaoul and Noa's demonic Sachira, probably Ex Machina too in some manner of playing god. Then Amil Gaoul's rejection of Hugh was a major turning point in the plot (plus the desire and rejection of Sara contributed to some of the major conflicts within Zed). As the story advanced, several spirits shifted owners on several occassions progressing towards who would "win" the lengthy battle that consists of the entire show. Additionaly, creating some area set aside could help cleanup the messy character's section by removing the info placed there. I don't know what the best way would be to go about doing this though... --TerraGamerX 08:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Zed or Zedd?

Recently, any instance of Zed in the article was changed to Zedd. Which spelling should be the one we use. I've seen it both ways, myself, but I believe that Zed looks better.Rokuwa 19:56, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd say just leave it be till we get an official romanization or more concensus for the most popular english preference. (They're almost tied in google test, but Zedd leads. .) --Kunzite 18:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

It just brings to light one of many incredibly poor romanizations in this article. I had assumed that Hepburn Romanization was standard for Wiki. If that is so, then no syllable should be ending with 'M' unless it's romanized specifically otherwise by the series. If not that, then it should at least be uniform. That would be the bare minimum. 68.96.255.13 17:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

IT IS ZED, ACCORDING TO THE DVD CASE. BY THE WAY, i ADDED RATING INFO, BUT IT GOT DELETED. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.217.217.238 (talk) 00:44, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

what about the rest of the names?

there's no such thing as "Zi" in japanese so it can't be Zico, and it sounds like Jico so why does someone keep reverting it to Zico?

"Kis" sounds a lot like a japanese pronunciation of "Keith" and I'm convinced that's what it is. Especially with Zed, Noah, and Sebastian I think we can kind of assume Western names

"Gale"? He isn't a type of wind. The name "Gayle" is always spelled with the "y" isn't it?

"Afkareru"? On the official site the katakana for Roia's spirit is Apukareru. Why change it to "f" if it's supposed to be "p"? --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.219.67.81 (talk • contribs) .

"Zi" may be someone using kunreishiki romanization. But the sound when they say his name on the show is "Ji." We should use {{nihongo|Jico|ジーコ|Jīko|}} until the proper usage is established.

Apu → Afu was likely the result of someone missing a diacritic marc on the kana.

I agree on Gale. Keith may also be Keys, though. But I will addedd the nihongo template to provide for alternate names. (We have rules for this somewhere in the WP:MOS-JA but they're being debated right now.) Whatever we do now can always be changed to suit any more correct romanizations that come out later.. --Kunzite 19:23, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Has anyone considered that "Jiko" or "Zico" could be Zeeco? Looking at the naming schema on the URL for the character on the main site's image http://www.ki-ba.com/kibachara/chara/zee.jpg it would lead one to believe the character's name could be Zeeco, which sounds like Zico or Jiko when pronounced in a japanese accent. --Kamajii 02:24, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that and considered it, but.. looking at some of the other name abbreviations and knowing of past mis-romanizations (i.e. Sailor Satan, I think it may be just the webmaster guessing the names. --Kunzite 03:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Should we include an individual section for the spirits? There's a lot of them, and it's getting somewhat of a hassle to keep track of them all. Gambit01

Citations Please

Could we cite the episodes when adding facts and the like? I've included sample code below that you can just change the information on. Or just add <!-- Epidose 1--> and I'll go in and do it. Thanks!

For the first instance use: <ref name="episode1"> {{cite episode | title = {{nihongo|The Country Of The Buddhist Precepts|戒律の国|}} | episodelink = | series = Kiba | serieslink = | credits = | network = [[TV Tokyo]] | city = [[Tokyo]] | airdate = 2006-05-07 }} </ref>

Then for following uses you can simply use <ref name="episode1" />

--Kunzite 18:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

That might not be such a good idea...

We might not want to link to Mishicorp in the article considering that the page has a set of torrent links smack dab in the middle of it.--Rokuwa 01:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Such sites are against WP:EL. We should remove it. --Kunzite 01:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

That's a good idea. You guys know who you are. You should be ashamed. --Zeta26 09:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

There's 51 episodes of Kiba...

1. Title[1][2] Original airdate

01 "Wind of Destiny" "Unmei no Kaze" (運命の風) April 2, 2006 In a city called "Calm", a boy named Zed is causing his private school lots of trouble. He's been smashing into doors all over town. He tells his childhood friend, Noa, that he wants to leave Calm and that he feels, by breaking down some barrier, he will be able to. 02 "New World" "Atarashii Sekai" (新しい世界) April 9, 2006 Zed finds himself in another world, in the country of Templer. He meets Roya and her master, Zico, and learns about Shard Casters. Without meaning to, he gets into trouble with the law. 03 "Those With Power" "Chikara wo Motsumono-tachi" (力を持つ者たち) April 16, 2006 Zed meets Dumas and Robès, the top non-sage Shard Casters in Templar. Robès is a playboy aristocrat, while Dumas is a hard-working farmer. Dumas currently holds the title of Shard Champion of Templar. 04 "The Wind's Resolve" "Kaze no Ketsui" (風の決意) April 23, 2006 Zed desperately wishes to participate in the Joust, the annual fighting competition that decides the Shard Champion. When Mikki expresses his fear of fighting a second round, Zed decides to switch clothes with him. 05 "The Nation of Sacred Law" "Kairitsu no Kuni" (戒律の国) April 30, 2006 The story changes perspectives. Noah, Zed's friend, is now the protagonist. Noah is also transported to the other world, but he ends up in a different country: Neotopia. There, he is taken in by a man named Carter and his wife. He also becomes close to Aisha and Keith, childhood friends of Carter's son, Gale. 06 "A Rushed Conclusion" "Hayasugita Ketsumatsu" (早すぎた結末) May 7, 2006 Gale plans to destroy Letto by sending its people to different towns. In order to save the place he has grown to love, Noah tries to persuade Gale to take him and not harm the village. 07 "Awakened Feelings" "Mezameta Omoi" (目覚めた思い) May 14, 2006 The story returns to Zed and his fight against Robès. Zed is unable to summon his spirit, and so, loses the battle. Robès continues to steal from the townspeople under the alias "No-Face". His butler begs him to stop and Robès agrees on the condition that he can do just one more heist. However, things take a turn for the unexpected when another No-Face appears. 08 "Betrayers' Whereabouts" "Uragiri no Yukue" (裏切りの行方) May 21, 2006 Robès is locked up and his claims that there is another No-Face are ignored. Zed, however, realises the veracity of his claim. He demands that Robès reveal the identity of the other No-Face. Instead, Robès tosses him a strange flower. 09 "After the Fight is Over" "Tatakai no Ato" (戦いのあと) May 28, 2006 Zed's spirit does not listen to Dumas, instead attacking the invaders. After the battle, Roya and Zed find a strange girl at the edge of the forest. She asks Zed to lend her his strength. 10 "The Lonely Princess" "Kodokuna Ōjo" (孤独な王女) June 4, 2006 Rebecca reveals that Zed's spirit is called "Amir Gaul". Robès and a team are sent to find Dumas. 11 "Premonition of Conspiracy" "Inbō no Yokan" (陰謀の予感) June 11, 2006 Hugh succeeds in capturing Rebecca. Zed is furious but he joins Elda when Philip sends her on a mission. 12 "The Advance Towards Truth" "Shinjitsu he no Zenshin" (真実への前進) June 18, 2006 Elda takes Zed to a place where he can get a new and powerful spirit which he can control. At the castle, Rebecca is fearful of her new groom and runs out of the room. Hugh stops her from fleeing and implies in the ensuing conversation that her father is still alive. Zed receives a new spirit sword as well as a second spirit called Rambos. 13 "Strength to Dash" "Shissōsuru Chikara" (疾走する力) June 25, 2006 Rebecca decides to return to the castle, in hopes that she might see her father again. On the way, she and Roya are attacked by Elmeida and dragged back to castle. Zed goes off to rescue them. Meanwhile, Robès finally gets to fight Dumas. 14 "Temptation of Power" "Chikara no Yūwaku" (力の誘惑) July 2, 2006 Zed, Roya and Robès return to Templar. Mikki is depressed over the betrayal and death of his sensei. He has been trying to find work, since he must support himself now. Roya comes up with the idea of selling Mikki's tasty bread. When Robès sees the boy, he decides to give him a gift. 15 "Small Treasure" "Chiisana Takaramono" (小さな宝物) July 9, 2006 After Mikki attacks Roya, she and Zed go to Robès and then to Zico for information. It seems that Mikki is possessed by Suraguna, his master's old spirit. Meanwhile, Noah prepares to leave Galba, Sagiri and the other nomads. 16 "Tragedy of a Race" "Higeki no Tami" (悲劇の民) July 16, 2006 Guzman shifts himself to Templar and asks Zed to return with him to Kalbu-hu, where Rebecca is leading a rebellion against invading Zymot forces. Zico forbids Zed to get involved. 17 "Unreachable Desire" "Todokanu Negai" (届かぬ願い) July 23, 2006 The Zymot forces begin a full-fledged assault on Kalbu-hu. Kemp continues to argue for peace, while Guzman insists on fighting. Noah and Sagiri are being treated at a hospital in Neotopia. Diana tries to convince him to fight for the Neotopian government. 18 "A Wish Beyond Reach" "Kienai Inori" (消えない祈り) July 30, 2006 The people of Kalbu-hu awaken Pronimo, a spirit summoned by their collective unconscious. Hugh reveals a connection between it and the spirit he took from Rebecca. 19 "The Land of Darkness" "Ankoku no chi" (暗黒の地) August 6, 2006 Keith is on the run from the law. He's able to find a shifting shard, and he travels to Templar. Robès is called in to return the runaway to Neotopia, since Templer and it are allied. Robès, however, suggests Zed instead as an escort. The shifting goes wrong, and Roya, Zed and Keith land in Tusk, an ally of Zymot. Both Hugh and Noah go out to find them. 20 "Reunion" "Saikai" (再会) August 13, 2006 Roya is taken to the palace of Tusk to be used as a sacrifice. Keith finds Zed, and they go to save her. Meanwhile, Noah continues to search for Keith as Hugh searches for Zed. 21 "Unforgetable Memory" "Nuguenu Omoi" (拭えぬ思い) August 20, 2006 Roya finds small tuskan protruding from her shoulder, indicating that she is from Tusk. She tries to ask Zico about it but gets embarrassed. She trains vigorously for an upcoming tournament. Zed waits for arrangements to be made for his journey to Neotopia. 22 "Maze of Memories" "Kioku no meiro" (記憶の迷路) August 27, 2006 Ginga saves Roya twice, they end up being taken care of by a high class Tuskian. Zed meets up with Roya and decide to stay. At a party celebrating Roia as the Tuskian's new foster daughter, she is told to go see her mother by a mysterious man. At the meeting place, someone shows up determined to kill Roya. 23 "Bonds" "Kizuna" (絆) September 3, 2006 Roya's family past is revealed. Zed, Roya, Templar's spy get into a battle with the people who want to kill Roya. She is saved from her father by her mother. Zed and Roya return to Templar. 24 "The Yellow Shard of Fortune" "Shiawase no kiiroi shādo" (幸せの黄色いシャード) September 10, 2006 A bad gang comes for Robes and the butler says he will give them the family's secret yellow shard of Fortune in exchange if they let Robes off. But the three family maids are ambitious for happiness and steal the shard. Bad things happened when the shard granted them wishes. In the end it was a cursed shard and the bad guys were punished by Mikki. 25 "Prelude to Battle" "Tatakai no josou" (戦いの序奏) September 17, 2006 An inter-country joust is being held. Zed and Robes are nominated for Templar, Zed wishes to see Noah which is the main reason he agreed, Roya follows him to joust. Noah is competing in the Joust too, for Neotopia. Zed and Noah meet in Neotopia and chat for a long time as good friends, discussing what has happened and about key spirits. 26 "Lonely Memories" "Kodoku na kioku" (孤独な記憶) September 24, 2006 The episode recaps Noah's time in Neotopia. This involves both events when his spirit, Sachura, involuntarily released and caused destruction around him, thus causing him to fear his power. It also incorporates Noah's inclusion into Neotopia as its "Savior". 27 "Warriors" "Senshi-tachi" (戦士たち) October 1, 2006 During the Joust, Zed must combat everyone from old opponents to the strange technologists from Ulvarx, who possess wicked devices that are able to defeat even the most powerful spirits. 28 "Proof of Existence" "Sonzai no Akashi" (存在の証) October 8, 2006 When Zed shows just how powerful a shardcaster he is, the Neotopian leader Hyrum tries to enlist him in his campaign for global domination. 29 "Friendship at Cross-Purposes" "Surechigau Yūjō" (すれ違う友情) October 15, 2006 When Roya is arrested by the Neotopian soldiers, Zed discovers his friend Noah is very different than the person he thought he knew. 30 "Showdown" "Taiketsu" (対決) October 22, 2006 Zed and Noah face each other in the Joust and Noah shows just how mercilessly he can wield his new powers. 31 "The Cost of Ambition" "Yabō no Daishō" (野望の代償) October 29, 2006 After defeating Zed, Noa stops an attempt on Hyrum's life. He then unmasks Hugh, and defeats him. The final victor, he vows a rematch with Zed. 32 "The Nation's Agenda" "Kokka no Omowaku" (国家の思惑) November 5, 2006 Assassination attempts on Hyrum continue, as Noah and Zed become pawns in the political game of cat-and-mouse between warring nations. 33 "Lost Luster" "Ushinawareta Kagayaki" (失われた輝き) November 12, 2006 An Ulvarx faction reveals a technological advantage over Hyrum and Neotopia, and they intend to use this to end Hyrum's reign. But they need Zed and they try to persuade him to join their cause. 34 "War Breaks Out" "Makiokoru Senka" (巻き起こる戦火) November 19, 2006 Noah and Kira are sent to take out Zed and the Ulvarx assassins. Preparation is made for a celebration in Neotopia. Meanwhile, Zymot and Tusk reveal their alliance for the first time: in an attack on Neotopia. 35 "The Ones Who are Sacrificed" "Ikenie to narumono" (生贄となる者) November 26, 2006 Zed and Noah fight all four of Nudyu's spirits. When Zed is to take a hit from one of Nudyu's spirits Noah steps in the way and takes the hit for him. Before Zed can see if Noa is alright Noah gets up and heads towards the city which is now under attack. Can Noah get back in time to save the city? 36 "Wings Reborn" "Yomigaeru Tsubasa" (よみがえる翼) December 3, 2006 The war continues. Sagiri befriends a beastman from Tusk who saved her life. Helic gets a hold of and releases Ex-Machina, a composite spirit but who does he run into when he shifts to Neotopia? Noah confronts Hugh in battle, but how are they brought together? And can Zed finally summon Amir Gaul again? 37 "The Fall of the Capital" "Shuto Kanraku" (首都陥落) December 10, 2006 The three key spirits are having trouble bringing down Ex-Machina; that is, until Amir Gaul changes his form again. Noah and Zed are captured by Hugh as they are being distracted by the condition of Zed's hand. Roya decides to go to Neotopia to help, and Hugh infiltrates the throne room of the capital! 38 "Endless Battle" "Owarinaki Tatakai" (終わりなき戦い) December 17, 2006 Zico arrives in Neotopia to help out Hyrum despite his ban. Hyrum reveals Noah is to receive another key spirit(Monadi), if they can find it. And hostages are brought in by Hugh, who will return them if he gets Hyrum's head. 39 "Epiphany" "Kaigan" (開眼) December 24, 2006 Fuelled by his anger at Hugh's continual massacre of innocent people, Zed called forth Amir Gaul to fight Pronimo as he duels Hugh. 40 "Sought-After Power" "Nerareta Chikara" (狙われた力) January 7, 2007 With Neotopia fallen, Tusk now shifts its attention (and forces) to Ulvarx, determined to bring Ulvarx's technologies to Tusk's side. 41 "The Thought that Possessed Him" "Torawareta omoi" (囚われた思い) January 14, 2007 Ginga has returned to the Ulvarx with Zed and Roya only to find that Professor Bender has given up the lab to Tusk. Now things have changed and Zed, Roya, and Ginga are on the run from the Tusk army. In a safe spot Ginga reveals his past then goes to face Dukeham while Zed and Roya go deal with Professor Bender. Can Zed and Roya stop the mad Professor and can Ginga defeat Dukeham? 42 "A Small Savior" "Chiisana Kyūseishu" (小さな救世主) January 21, 2007 Sagiri is on board the Seeker ship. Since she is one of them they put her through the test to see if she is their savior which can only be confirmed by the acceptance of the key spirit(Shadin). Meanwhile someone has broken into Templar. Who has managed to break into the Templar base? 43 "Truth Made Known" "Akasareta Shinjitsu" (明かされた真実) January 28, 2007 Zed's Mother, Sara has appeared and she seems to be fighting Zico. We go back in time to discover the relationship between Sara and Zico. Why has Zed's mother appeared and what could she want? 44 "An Unbreakable Spell" "Tokenai Jubaku" (解けない呪縛) February 4, 2007 Zed's Mother, Sara is defeat by Sagiri's key spirit, Shadin. Sara manages to escape. After the fight Zed tries to pursue his mother but is prevented in doing so by Zico. Zed is now imprisoned in the Templar base. Will Zed be able to save his mother from her inner demons? 45 "The Girl Confined to the Castle" "Rōjyō no Shōjo" (籠城の少女) February 11, 2007 Zed decides to go off with Sagiri and the Seekers to learn about his Mother and his Father. Meanwhile in uask Molima decides she wants to test Mirred to see if she is Tusk's savior. If Mirred makes it back to the palace alive then Molima will accept her as Tusk's savior. Can Mirred make it back alive and who was Zed's father? 46 "To the Land Where the Decisions Will Be Made" "Ketsudan no chi e" (決断の地へ) February 18, 2007 Lord Dolga is accepted among the Tusk leaders but Molima wants to prove he is worthy by fighting her. Out in Tusk Gitra prepares to take Mirred back to the palace. Back in Templar Roya waits for Zed to return. Will Zed return back to Templar? 47 "A Savior Adrift" "Mayoeru Kyūseishu" (迷える救世主) February 25, 2007 Zed and Lord Dolga begin their battle. As the battle progress' Zed figures out that Dolga is actually Noah. Since Amir Gaul is defeating Sachura with ease, Xeem steps in and releases Pronimo and Monadi to make the battle go in the favor of Dolga. With no choice Zed releases Shadin. Becoming impatient Xeem begins to attack Zed while he fights Dolga(Noah). With Zed defeated Xeem takes his Key Spirits. Now with four of the Key spirits all Xeem has to do now is get Sachura from Dolga and find Mirred. Can Zed stop him? 48 "Advent" "Kōrin" (降臨) March 4, 2007 Tusker is now effect inside the spirit to control the spirits inside. Noah and Zed had lost their spirits. But the Tusker has a significant effect on their resurrection. 49 "Mother and Child" "Haha to Ko" (母と子) March 11, 2007 Zed's mother has followed him to a floating isle in Tusk. Overwhelmed by her desire to once again possess Amir Gaul, she would do anything just to have that great power, but for what reason? Her endless pursuit seemed to have blinded her from her true purpose—to protect her precious son. It is this realization that allowed her to pass away in peace. 50 "An Eternal Bond" "Eien no Kizuna" (永遠の絆) March 18, 2007 Noah summons Tusker once again, but it's still in its incomplete form; meanwhile, a possessed Noah fights Zed as the four realms (Templar, Tusk, Neotopia, and Zymot) experience unprecedented turmoils in the form of meteors and earthquakes as they draw near to each other. 51 "To Where the Wind Blows" "Kazefuku basho he" (風吹く場所へ) March 25, 2007 The episode starts with Zed getting enveloped in Tusker's power; Tusker releases himself and uses Zed's body and spread his wings to reveal his true form. While Zed is inside the endless abyss in Tusker getting lectured about how humans are bad because they want power, all the spirits get released. In the end Tusker is defeated, spirits go back to where they came from, Zed tries to attack Amir Gaul but ends up shifting and merging with Amir Gaul and gets transported to Calm where the city's wind has returned. In the end Zed leaves to return to Templar so he can be with Roya and Noah.

Different Name Usage?

I just edited the page with the known information from episode 41 which got subbed. However I saw that the usage of names is slightly different all over the place. Most worthy noticable are Roya (is it now Roia or Roya) Is it Tusk or Task? And not to mention Ulbacana, Ulbacans, Ulbakans, how is that spelled, seen to much different spellings all over the place.. Maybe it is an idea to filter out all the names and correct them to what it is supposed to be. Or if no official names are known then take the best translation from maybe the fansubs and stick with that?

Kind Regards, Lamex ~ Lamex@sacredhill.game-host.org —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.172.123.6 (talk) 12:25, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

deceased?

Why are characters being marked deceased? Obviously because they die at some point in the series, but shouldn't that just be mentioned in their profile that they die in a particular episode? Putting it next to the name of the character seems to say the character was deceased before the series starts... Drantin 11:46, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree plus, it stands out and gives away too much to someone who is just browsing through.deejaylobo 22:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

episode count

While the Kyuuketsuki ddl page says the final count will be 51, the japanese wikipedia page says 52... which would make sense for a four season show (one episode a week, 13 episodes a season, 26 episodes a half year, 52 episodes a year...)

Does anyone know where Kyuu got the 51 number from?

--Drantin 15:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Anime News Network, this is an unreliable source and should be removed. --Grimgoroth

No, ANN this time is correct. It will indeed end at 51. Animes like; Transformers: Enenergon, Armada; Gundam SEED, G.S SEED: Destiny all had 52. Just of note, Kyuu isn't usually the source of info.

--Zeta26 18:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Names

For you guys wondering about the names. They should be spelled as they sound if they were in their true english form not "fansubbed" form.

• Noah

Is supposed to be spelled; Noah, as it's spelled like this in the christian bible

• Jim

Is supposed to be spelled like this

• Keith

The correct romanization for Keith would be "Kisu (Kee-su)" not Kis. And it's english version would be "Keith"

• Amil Gaul

This would be Gaul' correct spelling. Instead of Kyuu's "Gaoul"

Zeta26 19:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you're only mostly right. There is official merchandising with the names spelled in certain ways, such as Noa without the h at the end... Until seeing that, I was of the same opinion as you... --Drantin 00:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's the example I have: Noa's card --Drantin 15:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, Noa can be both Noah or Noa. But to whoever changed Jim's name back to Jimu. It is Jim. "Kis" is Keith. Please get it right. Zeta26 14:47, 10 March (UTC)

As far as Mirette's name... as the kana is ミレッド, (lit: Mi Re Do) couldn't this be a reversal of Do Re Mi... especially considering her fascination with music... --Drantin 08:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Also whoever is fiddling with Jim's name of the Task profiles -- needs to stop. The correct spelling is Jim (as stated in Mischicorp), and is really the correct spelling for Jim. Not Jimu. Zeta26 13:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, please. When there is an official naming for the characters we should change them. It was NEVER stated that Jim or Jimu is his name, Mishicorp are just another fansubbing group that are merely guessing and Noa's name is Noa, as stated above, so you've been proven wrong once again. Please do not change the names as you see fit, though Jim is actually fine til we get an official romanization. -- Grimgoroth

Yeah, but who the heck came up with Jeem? --Drantin 10:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

An ex page on Roia

The page Roia had been a redirect here until I changed it to a disambiguation page just now. (No incoming links so no problems, I hope.)

But looking at the page history I see that before it redirected here it contained an article on the Roia character. (You’ll find the text [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roia&oldid=86380276 here.) I don’t know whether it worth merging into this article, or indeed making it an article again, under a suitably disambiguated name. —Ian Spackman 11:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

"absolutely will not have any plot elements that curry favor to children"

If the director said this, then why did they bother making the show in the first place? Did they just make the series so Upper Deck could have a bit more money in their pocket?RedEyesMetal 19:37, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that comment might've been in regards to the way many things were "painfully" dramatic, such as the traumas Noa went through and Zed's abslute neglect from his mother. There wasn't much of a happy ending as it was simply a peacful ending. If it had some more typical plot elements that are along the lines of that statement, then perhaps Noa would've saved Neotopia or at least his friend he executed. I'm not very sure myself since I know nothing of the creator or of the original context of that statement... --TerraGamerX 08:14, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Jetstream

Before anyone removes the mentions of it, Kiba is indeed running on the online Toonami Jetstream service.

Proof: www.toonamijetstream.com

Just bringing this up in advance so no one thinks that there are trolls making up stuff. 67.186.163.48 (talk)

I believe this should be mentioned on the main page for this anime show. It is sort of important and acually useful. Not to mention if ti goes on TV because of it, it is even moreuseful. - 24.0.220.96 (talk) 05:14, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Review(s)

• Mania.com: v1, v2, Collection
• ANN: Shelf Life Ep 01-06, DVD v1, Shelf Life v1&2