Talk:Keelboat

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I looked up "keelboat" for a quick reference whilst in a conversation in which the term was mentioned, and this particular definition is not what was being referred to. The last paragraph of the article mentions that "A Keelboat is also a racing sailboat..." but I would like to suggest a disambiguation to avoid this confusion. I'm a novice Wikipedite (I'm sure someone can give me the proper term for that!) and don't know the protocol for voicing this suggestion, so sorry for that. --Caen 01:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd agree. A disambiguation is required, or an inverting of the types...the term is applied widely today....even if it was only by the sailors of the latter type, that would be doubtless tens of thousands of people more than have ever heard of keel boats in the river boat application. Applied to a riverboat, it is not more valid, and it is at best archaic, at worst, archaic and marginal. Keelboat in articles on modern racing sloops and the like is currently being linked to an article of what are effectively river barges, which is a disservice.

--Aodhdubh 00:02, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

What about just moving the third paragraph to the top of the article and perhaps rephrasing the beginning of the (presently) first paragraph?

--Caen 04:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

SO WHAT EXACTLY DOES IT DO? I AM 13 YRS OLD AND DOING A PROJECT INVOLVING THIS PLZ HELP THX —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.13.227.124 (talk) 01:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I think the sailing boat definition (as opposed to the riverboat one) is quite wrong. I do a bit of yachting, and recognise in the list of "keelboats" a good many yachts! When I've heard the term 'keelboat', it has been used to mean a boat like an Yngling, for example - a large dinghy (a dinghy is a smallish sailing boat with no cabin) but with a fixed keel (most dinghies have a movable centreboard a.k.a. daggerboard). So it might be 15-25ft long and weigh a few hundred kilos .. but not a 50ft racing yacht (50-foot monohull) or a heavy cruising yacht with a cabin (Contessa 26 or 32), to take 2/3 examples from the erroneous list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.194.190 (talk) 21:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

In my experience "keelboat" as a term for a type of sailboat comes in part from Olympic usage where the modern categories are keelboat, dinghy, multihull, and windsurfer.

So while the term literally means any boat with a keel, usage does seem limited to smaller boats. I have seen it limited to "around 20 feet" (in length), and also to "daysailor". The 2000 Summer Olympics chose the 8.15 m (26.7 ft) Soling as its three-man crew keelboat class. The 1948–1972 Olympics used the 8.90 m (29.2 ft) Dragon for the same event.

Perhaps its general use is limited to any sailboat with a keel that is too small to be a yacht although a source for the cutoff would be nice. —MJBurrage^(T•C) 19:52, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I suspect quite a bit of the usage is country specific, but that is not pointed out in the main article. The UK usage seems to come from the Olympic definiton reported - I'd not be surprised if it was the other way around. That is a small boat with a keel. The US definition seems to be of any boat with a keel, as far as I can see, and thus can be quite different. I don't think this definition is used in the UK - don't know about anywhere else. I'd say should thus be three definitions given on this page, and not two, with the proviso that "any boat with a keel" definition is specified as US specific (or limited to some geographies). FTR this is also true of "sailboat", which I don't think is even a valid word in UK English - the generic term being "sailing boat", although people seem more commonly to use specific terms like "yacht" and (sailing) "dinghy". --JForrest (talk) 12:35, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

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