Talk:José María Jimeno Jurío
Latest comment: 2 years ago by Paradise Chronicle in topic Contested deletion
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Contested deletion edit
This page should not be speedily deleted because... The page might have been created by a user who is globally banned, but the subject of the article is now rather a notable person. Just check the many Authority Control hits he gets. He even has an entry in the Spanish Royal Academy of History.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:41, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- The banned user had a habit of pasting the result of a google translation into the article, whithout crediting the creators of the original, presenting it as own work. I haven't checked if that's the case here too, but if so, there's nothing to be gained from keeping a machine translation. A reader would be better off using a new machine translation each time, since they tend to improve. Vexations (talk) 20:01, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know if it was a google translation, but they sure could have mentioned some more steps in the biography of Jose Maria Jimeno Jurio.The more I work on the article, I more I see the article is about an influential personality in Basque (Region of Spain) history. Not just a person, an influential person.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 21:27, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Paradise Chronicle, I also think the subject is notable. Ideally, another editor would have created a proper article rather than allowing the banned editor evade his ban by creating a quick translation of the Spanish version of the article. We should at least acknowledge the contribution of the editors who wrote that article, per WP:TFOLWP. My preferred solution would be to collect all the extant sources, delete under G5, and start over. Vexations (talk) 22:28, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, delete under G5. I didn't read the G5 criteria before. I just contested the deletion for notability.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:55, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Paradise Chronicle, here's a list of all the sources used in the Basque, Spanish and English article (note: not all of them work):
- http://dbe.rah.es/biografias/53880/jose-maria-jimeno-jurio
- http://www.cazarabet.com/conversacon/fichas/fichas1/represionennavarra.htm
- http://www.culturanavarra.es/uploads/files/09_FLV57-0169-0172.pdf
- http://www.noticiasdenavarra.com/2015/10/21/sociedad/navarra/el-gobierno-foral-concede-la-medalla-de-oro-de-navarra-al-historiador-y-etnografo-jose-maria-jimeno-jurio-
- http://www.noticiasdenavarra.com/2015/10/21/sociedad/navarra/el-gobierno-foral-concede-la-medalla-de-oro-de-navarra-al-historiador-y-etnografo-jose-maria-jimeno-jurio-
- https://books.google.com/books?id=1NKVPwAACAAJ
- https://pamiela.com/index.php/eu/74-prensa/1440-jimeno-jurio-navarra-1936-1939-la-represion
- https://pamplonaactual.com/jose-maria-jimeno-jurio-tendra-su-calle-en-arrosadia/
- https://web.archive.org/web/20160513001208/http://www.noticiasdenavarra.com/2015/10/21/sociedad/navarra/el-gobierno-foral-concede-la-medalla-de-oro-de-navarra-al-historiador-y-etnografo-jose-maria-jimeno-jurio-
- https://web.archive.org/web/20160513001208/http://www.noticiasdenavarra.com/2015/10/21/sociedad/navarra/el-gobierno-foral-concede-la-medalla-de-oro-de-navarra-al-historiador-y-etnografo-jose-maria-jimeno-jurio-
- https://www.etniker.com/miembros/jose-maria-jimeno-jurio/
- https://www.naiz.eus/eu/agenda/evento/semana-cultural-jose-ma-jimeno-jurio
- https://www.noticiasdenavarra.com/actualidad/sociedad/2020/02/22/jose-maria-jimeno-jurio-base/1025153.html
- https://www.nuevatribuna.es/articulo/cultura---ocio/jimenojurio-pionero-investigacion-represiongolpista-franquismo-cultura-navarra/20200224131829171423.html
- https://www.pamiela.com/index.php/colecciones/castellano/ensayo/jimeno-jurio/navarra-historia-del-euskera-iii-detail
- https://www.pamiela.com/index.php/colecciones/castellano/obras-completas-de-jimeno-jurio
- I find the first one particularly convincing of the subject's notability Vexations (talk) 23:14, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well I guess the discussion has found a solution. Liz removed the G5 tag. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 05:22, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Paradise Chronicle, here's a list of all the sources used in the Basque, Spanish and English article (note: not all of them work):
- Ok, delete under G5. I didn't read the G5 criteria before. I just contested the deletion for notability.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:55, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Paradise Chronicle, I also think the subject is notable. Ideally, another editor would have created a proper article rather than allowing the banned editor evade his ban by creating a quick translation of the Spanish version of the article. We should at least acknowledge the contribution of the editors who wrote that article, per WP:TFOLWP. My preferred solution would be to collect all the extant sources, delete under G5, and start over. Vexations (talk) 22:28, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know if it was a google translation, but they sure could have mentioned some more steps in the biography of Jose Maria Jimeno Jurio.The more I work on the article, I more I see the article is about an influential personality in Basque (Region of Spain) history. Not just a person, an influential person.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 21:27, 9 June 2021 (UTC)