Talk:Johannes Plendl

Latest comment: 12 years ago by Bodhimeister in topic Removal from power

Year of birth? edit

Editor 69.238.167.215 has changed the date of birth from 1901 to 1900. Can someone with access to reference material confirm the correct date of birth? --Muchness 06:23, 1 March 2006 (UTC) kmarawer (former collaborator):(source: obituary note) Birth date is 6 Dec.1900, death 10 Maly 1991 FURTHER: As for personal authorship the present text indistinctly assigns to P.all hf systems developed during his time as plenypotentiary as which he was of course engaged with all hf-developments made in Germany. At least the credits in view of V1 and V2 should be withdrawn. I know from my time under P. that at least the X- and Y-systems are his own inventions. It might be noted that while with X planes were bound to beams, so could easily be attacked, while position finding with Y was two-dimensional. kmarawer (registred in the german Wikipedia) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.159.64.189 (talk) 07:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Removal from power edit

The actual text assumes political reasons. However p. was dismissed by Goering after the Hamburg catastrophe that resulted from the application of tuned aluminum strips (code name Windows) by the British.

kmarawer 84.159.189.142 (talk) 21:46, 6 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

The Hamburg attack was in August of 1943, and Plendl was not dismissed until Mark 1944. By then some counter measures, such as Flak radar with different frequencies had been developed. The citations for this reason in the article do not lead to confirmation of the text. Also, the citation to Louis Brown's "A Radar History of World War II" in the next sentence speculating that Plendl lost his position because of his help of some political prisoners does not have a page number. In fact, the book says that Plendl was dismissed after and argument with the Chief of Flak, citation is included. Bodhimeister (talk) 19:00, 29 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Saving Hans Ferdinand Mayer from internment edit

This article describes Mayer as being Jewish - however, the article on Hans Ferdinand Mayer does not mention that he was Jewish and instead states that he was "interned in concentration camps until the end of the war for political reasons (listening to "enemy stations" and criticism of the Nazi regime)", and does not mention Plendl's role in saving him. Bahudhara (talk) 14:55, 3 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Having gone back to the sources (especially Sterrenburg) I can't find any mention of Mayer being Jewish, and it seems highly unlikely that he could have still occupied his senior position at Siemens as late as 1943 if he had been Jewish. The reasons for his arrest, plus being saved from execution by his doctoral supervisor, Philipp Lenard, an avid Nazi supporter and anti-semite, also seem to make this extremely unlikely.

It therefore seems that this must have been an error on the part of the previous editor, who didn't give a source for this assertion (that Mayer was Jewish) which I could check on-line - so I've removed it and rewritten the section to include the other evidence, and to bring this in line with the Hans Ferdinand Mayer and Oslo Report articles.

Bahudhara (talk) 12:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Undoing edit by User 98.230.55.74 edit

I've reverted this edit because the changes, e.g. from 'surrendered' to 'contacted', seem to be far too euphemistic.

This edit had also changed the following sentence, by omitting the italicised clause:
Particularly noteworthy was the fact that Plendl had saved a number of people, including many Jews, from the Dachau concentration camp, under the guise of needing them to work on his projects.

Neither the German Wikipedia article on Plendl, nor the online references cited there, shed any light on this matter, so I've added a 'citation needed' tag, rather than keep an unnecessary deletion.Bahudhara (talk) 02:21, 6 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Work on V1 and V2 weapons? edit

Earlier versions of the article suggested that Plendl also contributed to the development of the V1 and V2 weapons, through a personal association with Wernher von Braun; however, this has been questioned by User:Bodhimeister [1], who is related to Plendl. Bahudhara (talk) 04:01, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Reply


Changes to article July 26, 2011 edit

I edited the second and third paragraph of this article due to lack of citations and mistakes in events discussed and translation, e.g. "Staatsrat and Plenipotentiary of Long Range Bombing and High Frequency Research" from the previous version is a combination of two different titles that he held. Will work on other paragraphs later, since they are also lacking citation. Bodhimeister (talk) 11:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)BodhimeisterReply