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Should this be moved?

Latest comment: 18 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Maybe we should move the article to Johann Caspar Ferdinand Fischer. It is, after all, his full name; besides, all other Wikipedias name the article that way. Any objections? Jashiin 20:10, 19 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Responsible for French influence?

Latest comment: 16 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

The phrase "...he was responsible for bringing the French influence to German music." is a bit of an overstatement, since Froberger, Weckmann, Buxtehude, Bach, etc. all incorporated French influences. fzirp 18:33, 13 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

I agree that this should be reworded somehow, but I think the statement is sort of true (I reckon it was I who added it to the article, but that was before I started writing down my sources :( ). He brought the influence of French composers of his time to Germany, ie. the French orchestral suite, Lully, etc. Froberger and Weckmann both worked at a time when that French school was just starting out (Froberger was mostly influenced by the last generation of French lute composers, and himself helped shape the French harpsichord school. And Weckmann studied French music from what Froberger sent him). Buxtehude only has some French elements in his harpsichord suites, which, as far as I know, were not very well known in Germany. The same applies to Pachelbel. As for Bach, he was much younger (about 20-30 years, according to Grove) than Fischer and was actually influenced by him. Jashiin 19:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

I would go along with the "of his time" revision, or it could read something like: "He was among those responsible for bringing French influence into German music". fzirp (talk) 18:45, 20 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

I take some issue with "...he was also one of the first composers to apply the principles of the orchestral suite to the harpsichord, replacing the standard French ouverture with an unmeasured prelude" also. For one, was it the orchestral suite that was applied to the harpsichord, or the other way 'round? Second, the unmeasured preludes are generally credited to the French composers first and foremest, e.g. Louis Couperin. He may have been in innovator in Germany, of course, but the sentence doesn't make that clear. JTL 05:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.187.208 (talk)

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