Talk:Hylas

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One of the reference links goes to an awful commercial site. Weakliesandcoldwalls (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:17, 23 December 2009 (UTC).

Nymphs

We illustrate this article with File:John William Waterhouse - Hylas and the Nymphs (1896).jpg , but say nothing of its relevance to the subject. Can someone fix this, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:16, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

How would we explain its relevance, other than to say "this is Waterhouse's painting of Hylas and the nymphs"? Although the article could do a better and fuller job of explaining the nymphs (see also Lympha#Divine madness), it does say Hylas was kidnapped by nymphs. Could you be more specific about what you want done? The nymphs should be in the intro, fer shure, since that's the most famous myth of Hylas. Cynwolfe (talk) 07:22, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Why does he act like a moron if he is supposed to be smart

In the Jason and the Argonauts film he is portrayed as a genius. But Jason tells them not to take anything except food and water on the island of bronze. Still, after he already knew that Hercules taking a brooch caused the Talos giant to attack them... what does he do? Run back to get the brooch just as the Talos giant is about to fall dead - and gets completely squashed by it. So the smartest person in the movie does the absolute stupidest thing. Guess I'm just frustrated by that. So I had to mention it here. 60.242.167.154 (talk) 20:34, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

It's a basic trope of mythology that something is forbidden, then someone disobeys and takes the consequences. Examples are: Adam and Eve ("Don't eat those frui!"), Cinderella ("Be back by midnight!"), Lot's wife and Orpheus ("Don't look back!"), Ngātoroirangi climbing Tongariro ("Don't eat or I'll freeze!"). Also, don't expect film portrayals to exactly mirror reality. -- Hugh7 (talk) 06:13, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

But thanks for mentioning the movie: I have added it to the page. -- Hugh7 (talk) 03:03, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Hylas was Heracle's lover

Why does the article not mention Hylas was Heracle's lover. to quote Theocritus:

• "We are not the first mortals to see beauty in what is beautiful. No, even Amphitryon's bronze-hearted son, who defeated the savage Nemean lion, loved a boy-charming Hylas, whose hair hung down in curls. And like a father with a dear son he taught him all the things which had made him a mighty man, and famous. And they were inseparable, being together both day and night. That way the boy might grow the way he wanted him to, and being by his side attain the true measure of a man"* — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.87.63 (talk) 05:22, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a serious problem removing homoerotic themes in Greco-Roman mythology and literature. 179.181.33.14 (talk) 15:02, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

I removed the citation needed and added a reference to an article by the Advocate about Hercules and Hylas as well as others.

On the contrary, that very quote makes it clear the relationship between the two was that between a father and son. So I'd say you have a serious problem with reading myth through lavender-tinted spectacles, and conflating all kinds of love (of which the Greeks had several) with sexual love--unless you think father-son relationships are "homoerotic" (in which case you have an even more serious problem). Ya hemos pasao (talk) 23:43, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

It doesn't say it was a father-son relationship, but like one. "Daddy-son" is a common way to describe adult gay relationships with a significant age difference. I know of several where the "son" is in his 40s or 50s. It is a modern fad to worry whether or not same-sex relationships are sexual. Since they are fictional, the question is immaterial, but the Greeks probably thought that between Herakles and Hylas was. -- Hugh7 (talk) 06:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

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