Talk:Hornsey

Harringay

Note: It is correct to say that it's in the borough of Haringey. (Someone had removed this.) The nearby place on Green Lanes is spelt Harringay. Nevilley 09:08 Apr 25, 2003 (UTC)

Photo

I was unhappy about the photo of Hornsey Town Hall being on this page, as it's not even in Hornsey. If we had a page on the former Hornsey Council, who built it, that would be a better place for it as it's misleading here. For now, I have linked to it from Crouch End and removed it from here. If I can get a Hornsey photo for here, I will. --Nevilley 15:21, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hornsey is not Hornsey village

I know this is confusing - I live in Hornsey - but the village takes its name from the parish area, which is and always was much bigger, not the other way round!

The Victoria County History, Pevsner and other authoritities make this clear as well as all the far-flung old places like Hornsey Park north-west of Highgate, Hornsey Road in Finsbury Park, Hornsey Lane etc. I have edited and added to the page and aded links to try and disambiguate the confusion. There could be a separate article about Hornsey Village, but Hornsey by itself should refer to its correct historical area.

So it was quite correct to show the photo of Hornsey Town Hall, the former administrative centre of the area! --Straw Cat 02:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hornsey Co-ordinates

I notice that you've recently deleted a duplicate set of co-ordinates on the Hornsey page. The reason I'd put them in there was to try and get the article scraped by Google Earth. I had a dicussion with Kbthompson and a number of other editors about this some months ago to try and get to the bottom of why some articles were being picked up and others not. The consesus was no-one knew. Certain co-ordinate tags seemd to work on some pages but not others. What I'd done to Hornsey succesfully got it scraped. It seems a shame to undo that. I'd say the more London places we can get picked up the better. I wonder, until there's a better understanding of what exactly works and what doesn't, might I suggest we just leave the dup co-ordiantes on the Honsey page for the time being - at least it's working with Google Earth. hjuk (talk) 15:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I've tried another template. Hopefully this one works. We need to find a solution that does not result in the 'fudge' of two layers of data, one printed over the other. MRSC • Talk 16:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed that we need to find another template. However, since the Hornsey one's working, do you think it would make sense to leave that one as was and try the new template on another page? hjuk (talk) 17:42, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Since I haven't heard back from you, can I take it that you're happy for me to revert? hjuk (talk) 13:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

How is the replacement template (template:Coord) working out? As I said before, the problem of the overlaying of one set of figures over the other is more concerning than propblems with Google Earth. Is this template picked up by it? MRSC • Talk 13:43, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

GE only scrapes occasionally. SO we won't know the HOrnsey link's broken till it's broken. Then fixing it seems to real hit and miss. What problems does duplicating cause by the way? hjuk (talk) 13:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to break in. Google Earth apparently does a run processing articles picking up instances of {{coord}}; the problem with {{Infobox UK place}} is that the call to coord is NOT on the article page (which is not expanded until reatime).

There were suggestions that the call to coord could be made directly in UK place - thereby getting the parameters 'scraped' - however those params are also needed by the mapping function. Another point to notice is that UK place doesn't use the recommended params (something like WP:GEO standards). That's the executive summary of what I found out - at that point I realised there were too many changes to UK place to contemplate and wandered off to find something less difficult to do! Kbthompson (talk) 14:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

In this version at the top right hand corner of the screen there is one set of co-ords overlayed in a kind of "fudge". MRSC • Talk 15:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

With the additional |​display=inline, header display of the co-ords should be suppressed. I agree it is unsatisfactory to have the co-ords in two places (even if not printing over the top of each other). The 'scrape' occurs approximately once a quarter, due to impact on the server. Kbthompson (talk) 15:14, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Rejig

Not sure what the rejig by Jza84 achieved, so have undone. It's easier to find info as was. Jza84 if there's a particular reason or Wiki policy which is driving you to make the changes it wd be helpful if you could outline it/them and perhaps we can agree the best solution. hjuk (talk) 18:09, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

N8

Surely the boundaries of Hornsey continue to be those of N8? Always were in the 30ish years when I lived there! The address was always given as (for example) Crouch End, Hornsey, London N8. Incidentally where is Rokesly Road, is it new? Pterre (talk) 15:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, that's better! Pterre (talk) 15:44, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Having been a resident for some years, I agreed with you that that is the most common and third-party-referable definition. The area round the old church also is sometimes called for want of anything else, Hornsey - often with "village" added. But unless some third-party sources are found, naming any boundaries must be impressionistic.

There's no such place as Rokesly Road; there is an Avenue between Tottenham Lane and Middle Lane.--Straw Cat (talk) 15:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I spent several years walking to Rokesly school along it. Er, well you know what I mean. Rokesly Avenue is probably a reasonable boundary for Crouch End, but in many minds Crouch End remains a part of Hornsey. Pterre (talk) 15:56, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Lotus Cars

As I understand it Lotus was located behind what was then called the Railway Hotel. Presumably this is now the Wishing Well mentioned in the article. Pterre (talk) 15:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Hornsey depot

As this page is linked from Hornsey depot (qv) it would be helpful if a brief explanation of what Hornsey Depot is was added here - it seems to have got some coverage eg

• http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/news/hornsey_depot_plans_approved_despite_only_four_councillors_voting_in_favour_1_3283164
• http://www.hamhighbroadway.co.uk/news/decision_on_hornsey_depot_deferred_1_3230961
• http://www.haringeyindependent.co.uk/news/10989849.Controversial_Hornsey_Depot_plans_approved/

eg this http://hornseydepot.com/

Thanks.Prof.Haddock (talk) 16:10, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Hornsey College of Art

Although no longer in existence as an independent entity , the Art School of Hornsea had quite a colourful reputation in the 1960s. I'm surprised that it doesn't merit a paragraph. Twizzlemas (talk) 23:29, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

See Hornsey College of Art. Somewhere along the line the link seems to have been lost. Pterre (talk) 10:14, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

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