Talk:Honda/Archive 1

Logo

The Logo shown on the page represents only Honda Cars, Honda motorcycles have a different logo please add it.

If you love Honda products, put {{User:Aeon1006/Userboxes/User Honda}} into your User page:

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----PCStuff 05:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree, and would replace the Honda Automobiles logo with the red "HONDA" corporate logo (from here: http://www.honda.co.jp/weekday/image/top/logo.gif), if only I could figure out how to do so incompliance with Wiki rules... JZH 14:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Subsidies

It would be interesting, if someone can track down the information, to see how much Honda (and all Japanese auto makers in general) is subsidized by the Japanese taxpayer, and examining what effect this has on Honda's success. ~Derrick, March 26, 2006

Name Change

Honda (automobile) is NOT a good name for this article, as the company makes more than only automobiles. It is by far the most common use for the name Honda. If you think it should move to a different name, please try proposing the move FIRST on Wikipedia:Requested moves and waiting for some discussion and consensus. older ≠ wiser 02:07, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Quite true. On a related note, I think this article should incorporate more about Honda's history in manufacturing motorcycles. For example, while Honda's American headquarters are in Torrance, California and the plant in Marysville, Ohio began manufacturing the Accord in 1982, Honda of America Manufacturing actually began in 1979 with the manufacturing of motorcycles at the Marysville plant. (See Honda's corporate website for more details.)

My vote: Keep the article as entitled, disambiguate at the top of the page to other possible meanings of the word "honda" that aren't related to the company, and expand on Honda's non-automotible endeavours elsewhere in the article. -SwissCelt 06:26, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Good point on the motorcycles. The ommision of the Super Cub is a bit dissapointing. It secured Honda's position in both Japan and the US. The mentioning of the electric starters is somewhat a homage to it, but it was more than that. It was a no-BS, reliable model that caught on world-wide. The "You meet the nicest people on a Honda" advertisements helped successfully change the American image of bikers from macho leather jacket (had to be strong to get them to start) wearing grease-monkeys (had to be willing to get dirty to keep them running). Honda's web site calls the Super Cub the best selling "vehicle" ever, with over 30 million units sold.

The other important motorcycle would be the Nighthawk CB750. What the Super Cub did to utilitarian motorcyrcles, the Nighthawk did to performance ones. It blew everything else away, forcing the rest of the industry to try and play catch up. The success of the Nighthawk also helped cement their status of being the top motorcycle manufacturer for the last few decades.

I'm told that both of those models have been in recent production, with a few slight revisions to each. To me, engineering complex machines like that can barely be improved upon decades later is the stuff of legends. Those two motorcycles shook up their industry far more than the mentioned CVCC and VTEC engines will ever do. -User:65.172.30.73 06:21, June 2, 2005 (UTC)

You are right about the Honda Cub being very influential. However, the name "Nighthawk" was not applied to the CB750 (later designated with "K") of 1969 which was the bike that killed Triumph, BSA, Norton and weakened even Harley. Honda's forte was to create a generation of people who were in love with Honda. They cut their teeth on the reliable Cub, moved up to a Sport 90, then to a larger bike. When it came time to buy a car, they opted for the name brand that had won them over—Honda. —Cadillac 21:09, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Current Strategy

I was sitting in a group today, a group of people with Master's degrees in Accounting, Business, and Econ, and we began wondering aloud what ever became of Honda. We all saw it as a company that was socially dominant a decade ago, and hasn't come out with anything "new" since, or at least not any big hits. Hopefully you Honda fans won't disregard my post, but I think there should be something in the history section (or any other section) that discusses their present and future in something other than an awestruck salespitch fashion, because, again, they haven't come out with a fleet-wide remodel since 1992, and haven't had a hit since then either. I was raised in a family that bought only Hondas, and now I can't name where the closest Honda dealership is. Maybe it's just strategy, maybe they're only marketing to niche conservatives in the US, but I'd like an explanation. They've definitely lost market share (that's not subjective.) -User:mrcolj:mrcolj 02:47, July 18, 2005.

Timeline

Reader Steve has sent an e-mail to the Wikipedia Help Desk.

"Can we get a timeline of Honda & Acura motor line set like Pontiac and others?"

I will suggest that he develop such a list but I will add to the list for your consideration. Capitalistroadster 02:22, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Mandarin???

The first sentence of this article had Honda's name in Mandarin Chinese ("in pinyin: Bentian Jiyan Gongye Zhushi Huishe"). (Note that the tone marks are missing.)

This is the English article for a Japanese company. Putting the Chinese version of its name here makes as much sense as putting in the German, Swahili, or Fijian name. I have therefore removed it. Godfrey Daniel 02:34, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Montesa Honda

Any one want to link in the trials bikes somehow (see the not very good article Montesa Honda) Pickle 07:47, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Racing Subjects

I was suprised to see so much information on motorcycle racing and so little on the automotive spectrum of Honda. You neglect to mention the ssucess Hona has had in the JGTC (Japenese Grand Touring Championchip) and in the D1GP and other drift events. Honda automobiles, specifically the Civic, CRX, Accord, RSX, and S2000 haave all been possibly the most popular "tuner" cars since the 80's. While I do not currently have the time to compile the nesscary information, perhaps I can do some editing on this subject. I also have extensive knowledge of Honda automotive engines and may possibly ccreate a section on that subject as well.

Minor Oversight

Although Honda is easily among the most innovative automotive designers and manufacturers, the credit fot the first IRS pickup truck goes (rather amusingly) to the limited-market Subaru Baja. Nitpicking, yes, but worth mentioning. The Ridgeline does have the first in-bed trunk, though!

Company history

"The Honda piston manufacturing facilities were almost completely destroyed." Which Honda piston manufacturing facilities would these be?

Honda began making piston rings, if i remember correctly. So I would assume that the article refers to that facility. -Cirilobeto 03:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

It would seem reasonable to mention the pre-1948 history of the company in this article.

The Cog Ad

Someone wrote "The ad featured no computer effects", which has no quotation, and it is UNTRUE, by the way. It is physically impossible for tyres to roll up as depicted. Apart from that, it's highly unlikely that a room of such characteristics (wooden floor, nice walls) is so big to fit all the car parts. F15x28 08:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

• The tire was weighted, inside, with other parts from the car. Thus, yes it could roll uphill as depicted. There were actually two rooms used for the filming of the cog ad. There is a computer generated stitching of two takes near the middle of the ad. Otherwise, the ad is filmed, as is, in real life. It took more than 600 takes to get it right. For verification, [1] and [2]. --Durin 15:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Strategy

"Honda's entry into the US motorcycle market during the 1960s is used as a case study for teaching introductory strategy at business schools worldwide."

I'd like to see some more info on this. I don't doubt it's true but I'd like to see a reference.

Mr. Opportunity

I really think the contents of this article should be merged with Honda marketing. IMHO, Mr. Opportunity is not notable enough to have his own article.--Folksong 06:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

honda atv's

what about hondas history of 3 wheelers and now 4wheelers aka atvs..Chardrc 03:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

company full name

Full name in English is Honda Motor Co., Ltd. See: http://world.honda.com/profile/overview/ Christopher Mahan 12:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)