Talk:Henry Dunant

German Wikipedia

This article was largely updated by a translation from the German Wikipedia. Tfine80 00:24, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Dunant and Free Masonry

According to this excerpt from an German article published in a Swiss Freemasonry magazine, there are no documents to prove that Dunant had any relationship with free masonry. The relevant German statement is:

...In dieser Nummer bringen wir zudem ein Portrait von Henry Dunant, das ein Basler Bruder verfasst hat. Auch er glaubt, dass Dunant kein Freimaurer war. Wir haben keine Dokumente gefunden, die Henry Dunant eindeutig als Freimaurer bezeichnen.'

Translation: ... In this edition, we also publish an article about Henry Dunant written by a brother mason from Basle. He too believes that Dunant was not a Free Mason. We have found no documents which name Dunant as a Free Mason.

I've therefore removed the respective category from the article until reliable AND specific information about Dunants connections with free masonry are brought forward here. --Uwe 22:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

This also the point of view of the author of the French version. Somebody reintroduced the assertion of Free Masonry in the English article, so I added a comment referring to this discussion. Mexterma (talk) 14:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Biography assessment rating comment

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. --KenWalker | Talk 00:39, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Went through that list other than Peer Review. Maybe this should be looked at as a GA? --KenWalker | Talk 00:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

refs

The article is detailed as to HD's life, yet there are no specific citations from the sources listed. This bothers me because I have a very short biography of the man that seems to be at odds with what our article says. Admittedly, the short biography is not an authoritative source, but its timeline should be considered. I can't quote very much with-out copyright infringement, but a major contradictiton is that it claims that HD lived in "Room 12" in Heiden for 18 yrs. after living in a town in Switzerland until 1890. It also says that his resurrection was due to a journalist's publicity. The short biography is in a school reader: "How Did the Red Cross Start," What a World 1, by Milada Broukal, p. 90. Kdammers (talk) 04:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't care about the English Wikipedia any longer but I will make an exception because this article is based on a translation of an older version of the respective German article for which I'm the main author. To make it short: room 12 was simply the number of the small room where he lived in the Heiden infirmary (which served both as a hospital and a nursing home). As the articles says, Dunant came to Heiden for the first time in 1881 and settled there in 1887. In 1890, the owners sold the guesthouse where he lived so he moved to the nearby village of Trogen. From there, he moved back to Heiden in April 1892 because he did not feel comfortable with his life in Trogen. From April 1892 until his death, he lived in the infirmary in Heiden (in room number 12).

What is missing from the English article is the period in Trogen from the end of 1890 until April 1892. On the other hand, this period of his life is not mentioned explicitely in every biographical sketch of Dunants life because it's rather short (one year and a couple of months), because it was uneventful and because Trogen was so close to Heiden (both villages belong to the small Swiss canton of Appenzell Ausserrhoden) that it didn't make much difference. I don't see any contradiction with the information which you cite from the biography because the final period of his life in Heiden indeed lasted for 18 years (1892-1910). His resurrection was due to an article written in 1895 by journalist Georg Baumberger, just like the article says. The book by Willy Heudtlass as given in the references section is a 250+ pages volume and the most in-depth and authoritative source regarding the biography of Dunant. Heudtlass was the first person to be able research private letter archives of Rudolf Müller and Hans Daae, two of only very few people whom Dunant trusted in his late life. So I trust the work of Heudtlass over some school reader any time, and twice on sunday. Unfortunately for the English Wikipedia (and for you), Heudtlass is a German author. --Uwe (talk) 13:23, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect dates

The first two paragraphs under "Forgotten Period" have some dates which seem to jump around in the timeline, making for confusing reading. Using context, I think a couple of them are just typos which, if corrected, would fix the problem.

(1) 1st paragraph, Aug 17, 1868; should be 1867?

(2) 2nd paragraph, March 1867; should be 1868?

Since there is no reference given for the information, I can't confirm this, so I'm not making any changes. Thoughts? LarryJeff (talk) 20:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Can any authoritative source be found to specify whether the proper pronunciation of "Dunant" follows French pronunciation guidelines or not? i.e. is it properly [dunã] or [dunant]? Andesco (talk) 15:59, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Henry Dunant as Christian TO THE LAST

The "Samaritan of Europe" began with the aim of being "more effective in Christian charity," "to heat up the lukewarm" believers, and to "convert those who had not met God" (as stated in the Société; by Henry Dunant). The société quotes him rejecting the Catholic Church and the State, but embracing the cause of the Gospel, empathethic with primitive Christianity, as well as talking about the prophecies of the Scriptures. In A memory of Solferino (1872) he calls "gracious" the self-sacrificing Christian devotion.

The two sources that claim that he became an agnostic "in his last years" do not point to any original source, nor have any documented quotation of him on the subject. Neither Oscar Riddle nor the NNDB give any reference to an original source to support their claims, which make their assertion unreliable. While Riddle's "evolutionary thought" book claims that Dunant became an agnostic, ChristianHistory.net (from Christianity Today, claims that he was a Christian humanitarian to the last.

If there isn't a really reliable source to clarify this matter with documented writings by him, I seriously call into question the claim that he "became an agnostic", while many other sources say exactly the opposite. Without any factual proof about it, the claim that he became an agnostic is merely a gossip and its diffusion is but a rumor. --Goose friend (talk) 20:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Despite a lack of evidence someone keeps adding that Dunant was an agnostic.

Consider: http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1901/dunant-bio.html and http://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/news/2004/dec16.html

Oscar Riddle was not Dunant's biographer. Riddle is only passing on a rumor.

Please do not include until consensus has been reached.69.127.248.215 (talk) 02:19, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

ZH8000 you should reach consensus on the talk page before making an addition.69.127.248.215 (talk) 03:09, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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