Talk:Haiti at the 1936 Summer Olympics/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 22:45, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

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Prose

Lede

• This was not before - suggest avoiding in lede. It makes it seem like the reader should know more about the subject. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:12, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• Considering how short this article is - perhaps mention a little bit more about the athlete. We don't even currently mention that they are a weightlifter. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:12, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• I think the opening ceremony should be mentioned somewhere in the lede. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:12, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• @Lee Vilenski: Made edits per all these comments, take a look? Kingsif (talk) 21:21, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

General

• 1936 was André F. Chevallier - we don't mention this person again at all in the article. Why do we know who he is? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• @Lee Vilenski: - There's nothing more to say; are you suggesting we don't bother to mention him? Kingsif (talk) 21:30, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

• Without saying they did anything, or can we not at least reword to say how they were involved. Otherwise it's like saying "Neil Armstrong landed on the moon, Queen Elizabeth was the monarchy of the United Kingdom at the time." These things are both true, but it's not really important to a reader unless we say why. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:51, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

• Spanish rather than French - probably worth saying "the national language...Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
• René A. Ambroise (Jacmel, 1912–1969),[ - the birth and death dates are a bit much, and this shouldn't be bold. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• @Lee Vilenski: I have removed the dates, not yet the bold because his name does redirect to the article. My thought process for including the dates original was: the dates are known, there doesn't seem to be any information on Ambroise outside of the 1936 Games, so couldn't make a standalone bio article, so include everything we know at this one. Kingsif (talk) 21:33, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

• unwittingly being a disappointment to his country.[10 - why did he think that? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

• @Lee Vilenski: To quote the source:

René Ambroise, unico representante da republica de Haiti, não somente não poderá representar O proprio paiz nas competiçõões olyimpicas de pesos e alteres mas tambem não poderá ter o prazer de assislir aos jogos olysmpicos porque acha-se actualmente no hospital da aldeia olympica, para onde foi transportado na semana passada, devido & uma grave luxação muscular da perna direita. O sympathico athleta de Haiti declarou hoje aos chronistas desportivos que 0 foram visitar, toda a sua dór por ter causado involuntariamente uma grande decenção ao tu país

My Brazilian Portuguese isn't perfect, but I'm pretty sure all it says is "today he told the sports journalists who went to see him, that all his pain was for having unwittingly caused a great disappointment to his country" - based on the other interview, I'd assume it's because he knew he sucked. Although, thinking now, I might want to ask a Portuguese speaker if he actually said that his injury was causing the disappointment, just in case. Kingsif (talk) 21:30, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

• Otherwise, a short and sweet article. Placing on hold. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

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